In this episode of Beyond B2B Marketing, host Lee Odden sits down with Cindy Anderson, Chief Marketing Officer and Global Lead for Engagement and Eminence at the IBM Institute for Business Value and co-author of The ROI of Thought Leadership.

From Singapore, Cindy shares her journey from journalism to global thought leadership, defining what separates true thought leadership from traditional content marketing:  evidence-based intelligence, independent of product promotion, that gives leaders the insight and inspiration to act. She discusses her groundbreaking research with 4,000 executives that quantified thought leadership's business impact, revealing that 87% of executives made a purchase decision in the past 90 days based on thought leadership and that it delivers a 156% ROI, 16 times higher than traditional campaigns.

Together, Lee and Cindy explore how thought leadership can serve as the 8th P of marketing - the platform that fuels brand awareness, trust, and full-funnel growth. Cindy explains the hub-and-spoke model, where a single research-backed idea becomes the foundation for multiple derivative assets, and why original research will only grow in value as AI transforms discovery.

They also dive into topics like synthetic data, answer engines, and the Global Thought Leadership Institute's efforts to standardize and "de-squishify" the discipline. For B2B marketers looking to elevate their influence, credibility, and ROI, Cindy makes a clear case for treating thought leadership not as content, but as a strategic business asset.

Episode Takeaways Include:

• The three traits that set thought leadership apart: data, expertise, and independence from commercial messaging

• Why 87% of executives make purchase decisions influenced by thought leadership

• How the "hub-and-spoke" model multiplies ROI by turning one big idea into many derivative assets

• Why thought leadership should be the platform other marketing campaigns are built upon - the "8th P" of marketing

• The growing importance of original research as a trust signal in the AI era

• How AI can extend thought leadership content without sacrificing credibility

• The role of synthetic data in niche research - and the risk of losing trust if misused

• Why every B2B organization can quantify and prove the ROI of their thought leadership initiatives