Chance Burles (Army veteran - Combat Engineer) 
Jason Dempsey(Royal Canadian Air Force Veteran - Pilot)  
Jason and I talk about his company Blackbird Industries and what drew  him to being creative with the flags of Nations. We discuss how he  crafted a unique symbol while still keeping with the touchstones of  history.  
If you want to find more about Jason you can find him on  
Instagram: @blackbirdindustries 
Facebook: Blackbird Industries 
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