Chance Burles (Canadian Army Veteran - Combat Engineer) 

Wayne Phelps (United States Marine Corps Veteran - Air Defense, Drone Pilot) 

Wayne and I discuss Dehumanization and how it affects those deployed and at home. We talk about how words matter and that the vocabulary used on a daily basis can affect how we interact with those around us as well as some of the dangers involved in separating "us" from "them". 

How do we bridge the gap and is there a way forward? 

Listen in and find out! 

If you'd like to find out more about Wayne or get a copy of his book "On Killing Remotely" check out his Website here https://www.waynephelps.com/