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Touched Out & Trying to Breathe — with Giovanna Fletcher & Dr Zoe Williams

Touched Out & Trying to Breathe — with Giovanna Fletcher & Dr Zoe Williams

Update: 2025-06-27
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In this episode, we’re joined by bestselling author and podcast queen Giovanna Fletcher and NHS GP and lifestyle medicine expert Dr Zoe Williams for a chat that every busy parent needs to hear.


We’re talking about the reality of self-care when you’re juggling kids, careers, never-ending washing — and trying to keep your gut (and
your head) in one piece. From compromising at, will magnesium actually help us get some sleep, to why so many mums feel totally “touched out,” to how breathing — yes, literally just breathing — could be the wellbeing hack you didn’t know you needed. Oh and , will magnesium actually help us get some sleep?!!


Gi shares why her veg patch is her happy place, and Zoe brings the science on stress, boundaries, and gut health when life’s chaos won’t stop.


This one’s for anyone who’s ever tried to meditate next to a pile of laundry and a toddler demanding snacks.



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Touched Out & Trying to Breathe — with Giovanna Fletcher & Dr Zoe Williams

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