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Where Entrepreneurship Meets Therapy with Benjamin Fry (279)

Where Entrepreneurship Meets Therapy with Benjamin Fry (279)

Update: 2025-09-09
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Trauma to tech: how technology may be reshaping our approach to therapy


Benjamin Fry, a psychotherapist and founder of Khiron Clinics, joins Sue Marriott to discuss his personal experience with trauma and how it influenced his therapeutic work. He talks about building his clinic and exploring innovative approaches like EMDR and somatic experiencing, which led him to help develop the PhysioCam—a technology that allows clients to see their nervous system responses in real time. As mental health treatment continues to evolve with new technologies, Benjamin and Sue explore how education and better access to care can support healing and offer hope to those who need it.



“For many, the body is not a safe place to go to anymore, so they lose the valuable cues that come from these vital evolved pathways. The PhysioCam helps them recover it, like a pair of crutches help people with injuries to walk again” – Benjamin Fry



Time Stamps for Where Entrepreneurship Meets Therapy: Introducing PhysioCam with Benjamin Fry (279)

04:22 Benjamin’s personal journey and early life

13:26 Discussing trauma treatment in America

17:37 Establishing the clinic and innovative therapies

21:50 The necessary evolution of trauma treatment

38:51 Introducing PhysioCam: A new tool in therapy

49:15 The importance of psychoeducation

54:44 Khiron clinics and The Invisible Lion


About our Guest – Benjamin Fry, Psychotherapist, Author and Entrepreneur

Benjamin is the founder of Khiron Clinics, one of the world’s leading residential trauma-treatment centres, and Televagal, an innovative mental health technology platform. An accredited psychotherapist, couples therapist, speaker, author, and entrepreneur, he has written four books, including The Invisible Lion: How to Tame your Nervous System and Heal your Trauma. With a diverse career spanning psychology, media, and business, Benjamin read Physics and Philosophy at Oxford University and then did an MFA in Film Production at USC, directing a feature-length film distributed by HBO and Paramount. He later went on to set up various enterprises in the hospitality industry before completing an MA in Psychotherapy and Counselling at Regent’s College and an Executive MBA from Oxford University. His first book led to his role as the expert psychotherapist on the BBC series Spendaholics. Benjamin speaks at mental health conferences worldwide, raising awareness of the effectiveness of nervous system-based therapies for treating trauma. He also delivers workshops to help people optimize and heal their relationships through trauma-informe practices and education.


Resources for Where Entrepreneurship Meets Therapy: Introducing PhysioCam with Benjamin Fry (279)

Khiron Clinics Benjamin’s global trauma recovery center, information & resources


The Invisible Lion – Bejnamin’s recent book on taming your nervous system and healing trauma


Televagal – PhysioCam transforms your telehealth sessions into a powerful window into your client’s nervous system




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Where Entrepreneurship Meets Therapy with Benjamin Fry (279)

Where Entrepreneurship Meets Therapy with Benjamin Fry (279)

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD