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In this conversation, Haley Shapley discusses her book 'Strong Like Her' and her own fitness journey. She talks about the process of creating the book, including the collaboration with a celebrity photographer for the stunning pictures. Haley also shares her personal experience with fitness, from playing sports in her youth to discovering the benefits of strength training as an adult. She discusses the relationship between strength training and running, and how it can improve performance and prevent injuries. Haley also talks about her experience competing in a bodybuilding competition and the challenges she faced. Finally, she addresses the issue of the gym environment and the importance of creating a welcoming space for everyone. In this conversation, Haley Shapley discusses the historical and cultural perspectives on women's strength and athleticism. She highlights the challenges women faced in the bodybuilding and fitness world, including the propagation of myths and stereotypes. The conversation also explores the societal expectations of femininity and the binary thinking that categorizes strength as masculine and weakness as feminine. Shapley emphasizes the importance of strength training for all athletes, including runners, to prevent muscle loss and improve overall health. She encourages women to challenge societal norms and pursue their fitness goals without fear of judgment.
Takeaways
The book 'Strong Like Her' celebrates rule breakers, history makers, and unstoppable athletes, with stunning pictures of 23 amazing athletes.
Strength training can change your perception of your body and improve performance in various sports, including running.
Setting goals and challenging yourself is an important part of the fitness journey.
The gym environment has become more welcoming for women, but there is still work to be done to create an inclusive space for everyone. Women in the bodybuilding world have faced challenges and stereotypes, including myths about fertility and femininity.
Societal expectations have categorized strength as masculine and weakness as feminine, leading to binary thinking.
Strength training is important for all athletes, including runners, to prevent muscle loss and improve overall health.
Challenging societal norms and pursuing fitness goals can lead to empowerment and a stronger relationship with one's body.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Book Collaboration
08:51 The Power of Strength Training in Sports
29:10 Challenging Fitness Myths and Stereotypes
39:08 The Impact of Binary Thinking
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Tim Nooney discusses his transition from rock climbing to trail and ultra running, and his experience in the Asheville running community. He shares how he was drawn to the friendly and welcoming nature of the East Coast running community, particularly in Asheville, North Carolina. Tim also talks about his love for adventure and pushing his limits, both in climbing and ultra running. He reflects on the dangers and risks involved in climbing and how he found a safer outlet for exploration and boundary-pushing in ultra running. Tim also discusses his two-year hiatus from running and his decision to focus on climbing during that time. Tim Nooney shares his experience of running a challenging race and realizing that his motivation and passion for running had diminished. He made the decision to step away from running and became a wilderness therapy guide, helping adults with drug and alcohol rehabilitation in the wilderness. Tim discusses the transformative experiences he witnessed in his clients and the challenges he faced in his role. Eventually, Tim felt the urge to return to running and found a renewed passion for the sport. He now represents La Sportiva as an athlete and discusses their latest shoe, the Prodigio, which features an infused nitrogen midsole for added springiness.
Takeaways
The East Coast running community, particularly in Asheville, North Carolina, is known for its friendliness and welcoming nature.
Tim Nooney transitioned from rock climbing to trail and ultra running as a safer outlet for adventure and boundary-pushing.
He found fulfillment in ultra running by exploring vast distances in the wilderness and pushing his limits.
Tim reflects on the dangers and risks involved in climbing and how he decided to focus on climbing during a two-year hiatus from running. Tim Nooney made the difficult decision to step away from running after realizing that his motivation and passion had diminished.
He became a wilderness therapy guide, helping adults with drug and alcohol rehabilitation in the wilderness.
Tim witnessed transformative experiences in his clients and learned valuable lessons about communication and relationships.
After some time, Tim felt the urge to return to running and found a renewed passion for the sport.
He now represents La Sportiva as an athlete and discusses their latest shoe, the Prodigio, which features an infused nitrogen midsole for added springiness.
Chapters
00:00 The Friendly and Welcoming East Coast Running Community
09:38 Exploring Vast Distances and Pushing Limits in Ultra Running
33:58 Stepping Away from Running
43:08 Transformative Experiences in Therapy
51:46 Rediscovering a Passion for Running
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Joshua Ilnicki shares his experience of completing the Canebrake 200 race, shaving 15 hours off his previous finish time. He discusses the beautiful Sweetwater Creek State Park in Atlanta where the race takes place and the hallucinations he experienced during the run. Joshua explains his motivation for tackling the 200-mile distance and his affinity for Yeti trail races. He also talks about his training for the race and the challenges of the 10-mile loop in the Canebrake 200 course. Joshua expresses his gratitude for his friend and pacer, Patrick, who supported him throughout the race. Joshua Ilnicki reflects on his experience at the Cane Break 200-mile race and discusses his motivation, mental toughness, and unexpected win. He shares how he pushed through physical and mental challenges, used mantras and training montages to stay focused, and practiced mindfulness during his runs. Joshua also talks about the friendly competition with other runners and the support he received from his crew and the race community. Despite considering himself a recreational runner, Joshua's determination and perseverance led him to victory.
Takeaways
Completing the Canebrake 200 race and shaving 15 hours off his previous finish time was a significant achievement for Joshua Ilnicki.
Sweetwater Creek State Park in Atlanta, where the race takes place, is a beautiful location with a historic cotton mill and connections to the Hunger Games movies.
Joshua's motivation for tackling the 200-mile distance was to push himself to the next level and explore new challenges.
The Yeti trail races, organized by Jason Green, have created a supportive and inclusive community of runners.
The 10-mile loop in the Canebrake 200 course is mentally challenging, but Joshua found ways to stay focused and motivated.
Joshua is grateful for his friend and pacer, Patrick, who provided support and encouragement throughout the race. Mental toughness is crucial in ultramarathons, and it can be developed through practice and focusing on the body's physical sensations rather than emotions.
External motivation, such as friendly competition with other runners, can drive performance and push individuals to achieve their goals.
Imposter syndrome can arise even in unexpected victories, but it's important to embrace and celebrate success.
The support and camaraderie of the race community can greatly impact a runner's experience and motivation.
Recreational runners can achieve remarkable feats with determination, perseverance, and a love for the sport.
Chapters
00:00 Shaving 15 Hours Off My Finish Time
06:41 The Yeti Trail Races
30:33 Pre-Race Shakeout and Motivation
38:02 Training Challenges and Mindset
49:45 Internal Motivation and Chasing the Carrot
01:00:28 Gratitude and Compliments
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Simon Guérard, a trail runner and content creator, discusses his journey into trail running and the importance of community support. He shares his experience of finding balance between work and running, the impact of the trail running community, and the need for realistic and relatable content in the influencer space. Simon also highlights the importance of quality training over excessive mileage and the dangers of overtraining. In this conversation, Ryan and Simon discuss the importance of finding a personalized approach to running and training. They emphasize the need to listen to your body and find the balance between pushing yourself and avoiding injury. They also discuss the importance of understanding your why and not getting caught up in external pressures or expectations. Simon shares his experience of finding a healthy and balanced approach to running, where he prioritizes enjoyment, adventure, and meeting new people. They also touch on the challenges of creating content and staying true to yourself in a world driven by views and popularity.
Takeaways
Trail running is not just about running, but also about the adventure and pushing personal limits.
The trail running community is welcoming and supportive, providing guidance and encouragement to new runners.
Content creators in the trail running space should strive for a balance between polished, inspiring content and realistic, relatable content.
Quality training and injury prevention should be prioritized over excessive mileage and overtraining. Finding a personalized approach to running and training is crucial for success and injury prevention.
Listening to your body and understanding its signals is key to finding the right balance in your training.
It's important to understand your why and not get caught up in external pressures or expectations.
Running should be enjoyable and fulfilling, focusing on adventure and meeting new people.
Creating content should be driven by passion and staying true to yourself, rather than chasing views and popularity.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Setting
07:22 Becoming a Content Creator
27:48 Dangers of Overtraining
39:24 Understanding Your Why and Avoiding External Pressures
48:19 Staying True to Yourself in Content Creation
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In this conversation, Tera Pruett shares her journey of living in a camper and the challenges and joys that come with it. Tera discusses the role of stress in her hair loss and how running helps her cope with stress. She shares her excitement about building a house near the Appalachian Trail and the opportunities it will provide for exploring new trails. Lastly, she mentions the fees associated with state parks in different states. In this conversation, Tera discusses the new parking permit system in the Smoky Mountains and the inconvenience of cash-only payments. She also talks about her coaching business and the importance of making strength training accessible and comfortable for runners, especially women. Tera emphasizes the need for proper guidance and form when starting a strength training routine. She also highlights the benefits of strength training for longevity and the importance of timing and phasing in training. The conversation concludes with a discussion about the upcoming Trail Running Film Festival in Asheville.
Takeaways
Living in a camper can be challenging but also offers the opportunity for adventure and exploration.
Building a house near trails provides easy access to outdoor activities and new running routes.
Strength training should be accessible and comfortable for all runners, especially women.
Working with a trainer can provide guidance, accountability, and help prevent injuries.
Strength training is important for longevity and should be phased and timed appropriately.
The Trail Running Film Festival in Asheville offers a weekend of community events and inspiring films.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Wild Hair
00:38 Hair Loss Journey
07:14 Stress and Hair Loss
09:06 Coping with Stress through Running
13:00 Building a House
15:11 Living the Trail Runner's Dream
18:47 Building a House and Power Issues
21:02 Exploring New Trails
23:43 State Park Fees
25:33 Parking Permits in the Smoky Mountains
26:27 The Inconvenience of Cash-Only Payments
27:11 Unstoppable Strength, Endurance, and Adventure Coaching
28:41 The Intimidation of Strength Training
29:24 Making Strength Training Accessible
30:23 The Importance of Working with a Trainer
32:19 Strength Training as a Complement to Running
33:11 Timing and Phasing of Strength Training
36:01 The Benefits of Strength Training for Longevity
37:53 Changing the Mindset of Exercise
40:22 The Importance of Having a Coach
42:33 The Dangers of Following Online Training Advice
46:38 Nutrition Strategies and Training Frequency
52:48 The Trail Running Film Festival in Asheville
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Amy Mower is working on a book called 'DNF Rising from the Ashes,' which is a compilation of stories by endurance athletes about the lessons learned through races they didn't finish. The book aims to shed light on the often overlooked aspect of failure in the world of endurance sports. Amy discusses the challenges of selling a book about failure in a society that values success. She also shares her own experiences with DNFs and how they have shaped her perspective on growth and pushing one's limits. The conversation explores the fear of failure and the importance of stepping outside of one's comfort zone. Overall, the book aims to provide a platform for athletes to share their DNF stories and inspire others to embrace failure as a part of the journey. This conversation explores the topic of dealing with a Did Not Finish (DNF) in endurance races. Amy Mower shares her personal experiences and insights on how to use a DNF as a learning opportunity and motivation for future races. The conversation also touches on the challenges of multi-day races, the pressure on elite runners, and the impact of social media on athletes' mental well-being. Amy's book, 'DNF: Rising from the Ashes,' is discussed as a resource for further exploration of the topic.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Project Overview
01:02 The Importance of DNF Stories
04:30 The Difficulty of Selling a Book about Failure
06:48 Collecting Stories for the Book
07:53 The Response to the Call for Stories
09:19 The Lengthy Stories in the Book
11:27 The Taboo of DNFs and Fear of Failure
13:35 The Safety of Races You Think You Can Finish
19:17 The Influence of Others in Making Race Decisions
22:01 Different Mindsets: Completing vs Competing
23:07 Participating and Celebrating the Community
23:51 Should Everyone Experience a DNF?
24:41 Coming to Terms with a DNF
24:43 Dealing with a DNF
26:00 Learning from a DNF
27:17 Using a DNF as Motivation
28:48 Reflecting on a DNF
29:34 The Challenges of Multi-Day Races
31:36 Living in a Bubble during Multi-Day Races
33:35 DNF vs. Low Mileage in a Multi-Day Race
34:38 Different Meanings of Numbers in Multi-Day Events
35:18 Internal and External Motivations for the Fear of DNF
36:14 Analyzing the Fear of DNF
37:08 Pressure on Elite Runners
38:31 The Impact of Social Media on Elite Runners
40:38 The Pressure of Public Expectations
42:07 The Pressure on Elite Athletes
43:04 The Pressure of Social Media on Elite Athletes
44:14 Lower Threshold for Dropping Out for Elite Runners
45:36 The Drive to Finish Despite Potential Risks
46:48 Lessons Learned from Enduring Physical Challenges
47:17 Release of the Book 'DNF: Rising from the Ashes'
Amy's book is available now on Amazon
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Matt Silver, CEO of Alpha Project Physio and Performance, shares his running journey and the challenges he faced with injuries. He pursued a career in physical therapy to learn how to treat himself and other runners. Matt emphasizes the importance of running form and mobility in preventing injuries. He highlights the need for specialized knowledge in treating runners and the limitations of traditional physical therapy education. Matt's eureka moment came when he realized the impact of mobility on his own running. He explains the role of hip mobility and offers insights into building mobility for runners. In this conversation, Matt Silver discusses the importance of hip mobility and the benefits of the couch stretch. He also addresses the controversy surrounding running form and explains the importance of proper form to prevent injuries. Matt delves into the role of shoes in running and provides insights into finding the right shoe for individual needs. He also offers tips for transitioning to shoes with less foam. Overall, this conversation provides valuable information for runners looking to improve their performance and prevent injuries.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
01:04 The Running Journey
06:28 The Pursuit of Knowledge
09:05 The Challenges of Physical Therapy
11:01 The Passion for Running
13:09 The Evolution of Physical Therapy
14:52 The Doctorate in Physical Therapy
21:32 The Role of Form in Injury Prevention
23:12 The Eureka Moment
25:48 Understanding Mobility for Runners
28:01 The Impact of Hip Mobility
31:17 Building Hip Mobility
34:28 The Couch Stretch and Hip Mobility
35:18 The Importance of Running Form
36:15 The Reality of Running Form
41:17 Improving Running Form at Slower Paces
47:45 The Role of Shoes in Running
56:13 The Controversy of Shoe Design
01:01:44 Transitioning to Shoes with Less Foam
01:07:45 Where to Get 'Built to Run'
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Our very own Jeff Stafford was a last minute entry into Barkley this year. Hear all about how he got into the race with 13 hours to spare, why he has wanted to run the race for years and his adventure finding pages in Frozen Head State Park. We do reveal some book locations ;) and have quite a few laughs. Jeff may not have finished a loop this year, but he was able to find some pages and have an epic adventure.
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In this conversation, Kara Goucher discusses her running career, the simplicity of running, the dangers of following training trends, and the charm of unpolished podcasting. They also talk about bringing back retro running fashion, the possibility of turning 'The Longest Race' into a movie, and Kara's ethical stance on Nike. In this conversation, Kara Goucher discusses her experiences with Nike and the Oregon Project, as well as the influence of her grandpa on her running journey. She shares her anger and disappointment with the unethical behavior she witnessed and the toll it took on her body and spirit. Despite the challenges, Kara has found strength and is focused on being happy and free. The conversation concludes with a playful proposal for Kara to venture into the world of ultra marathons.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Excitement
00:24 Kara Goucher's Magazine Covers
03:07 The Danger of Following Training Trends
04:34 Creating Waves and Controversy
05:50 The Dumbest Training Trend
06:36 Reinventing the Wheel in Running
07:37 Bringing Back Retro Running Fashion
08:36 The Return of Striped Cotton Tubers
09:27 The Charm of Unpolished Podcasting
10:44 Talking About Running with Millions of Listeners
12:17 Creating a Movie from 'The Longest Race'
16:14 The Book 'The Longest Race'
24:48 Kara Goucher's Coles Cash
26:16 Ethical Stance on Nike
27:59 The Nike Dilemma
31:12 The Influence of Grandpa
32:46 The Start of Kara's Running Journey
34:58 The Support of Grandpa
43:20 Joining Nike and the Oregon Project
50:56 The Dark Side of Nike and Alberto Salazar
57:33 Finding Strength to Speak Out
01:00:58 The Ultra Marathon Proposal
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The conversation between Ryan and Patrick covers various topics related to podcasting, music, and their personal experiences. They discuss their podcast setups, favorite albums and cassettes, and Patrick's background in music and the instruments he plays. They also touch on the commercialization of music and the pressure and expectations Patrick faced at the Western States race. Overall, the conversation provides insights into their shared passion for music and the challenges and joys of being involved in the music industry. In this part of the conversation, Patrick reflects on his past races and the disappointment he felt at Western States 2021. He discusses the freedom he now feels without the pressure of living up to expectations and the joy of rediscovering running without the need for competition. Patrick also emphasizes the importance of authentic relationships and appreciating the journey. He expresses gratitude for his sponsors and the support they have shown him. Finally, Patrick talks about the freedom to express his opinions without the constraints of being a sponsored athlete. In this conversation, Patrick Reagan and Ryan Ploeckelman discuss the impact of a controversial shoe design on Patrick's running career. They also explore the coaching process and the importance of finding the right coach for individual athletes. Patrick shares his insights on working with athletes of all levels and the satisfaction of seeing them achieve their goals. They also touch on the challenges and rewards of ultra running and the importance of staying positive in the face of adversity. The conversation concludes with a discussion about future conversations and the thriving Adventure Jogger community.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Setup
00:35 Discussion about Podcasting and Music
06:33 Patrick's Music Background and Instruments
09:58 The Role of Rhythm in Bands
12:25 Getting into Music and Playing in Bands
26:45 Commercialization of Music
31:00 Meeting at Western States and Memes
33:49 Pressure and Expectations at Western States
34:22 Reflecting on Past Races
39:17 The Disappointment of Western States 2021
46:55 The Freedom of Not Living up to Expectations
53:51 Taking a Sabbatical and Rediscovering the Joy of Running
59:12 Authentic Relationships and Appreciating the Journey
01:06:49 Finding Support and Gratitude in Sponsors
01:07:46 Embracing Freedom to Express Opinions
01:07:59 The Awful Experiment
01:08:54 The Strange Shoe Design
01:09:23 The Impact on Performance
01:09:46 Taking a Stand
01:10:04 The Downfall
01:10:34 Reflecting on the Experience
01:11:18 The Positive Side of Hoka
01:11:32 Comparing Different Brands
01:12:30 Timing and Trajectory
01:12:42 Favorite Swag from Hoka
01:13:45 Exclusive Gear
01:14:02 Invitation to Nashville
01:14:32 The Ryman Auditorium
01:15:02 Helping Everyday Runners
01:16:06 Best Advice for Everyday Runners
01:16:45 Investment in Athletes
01:17:18 Working with Different Athletes
01:18:08 Learning from Everyday Runners
01:19:05 The Challenge of Coaching
01:19:36 Invested in Athletes' Success
01:20:03 Collaborative Coaching
01:20:43 Unique Concepts in Coaching
01:21:28 Working with Different Athletes
01:22:31 Coaching Breakups
01:23:08 Maintaining Relationships
01:23:51 Possibility of Future Conversations
01:25:29 The Rollercoaster of Ultra Running
01:26:01 The Realities of Ultra Running
01:27:26 Coaching Relationships
01:28:07 The Breakup of Tortoise and Hare
01:29:14 Future Conversations
01:31:26 The Adventure Jogger Community
01:32:06 The Tortoise and the Hare Podcast
01:33:17 Continuing the Conversation
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Liz Canty moved from Alabama to Colorado for the love of running and the outdoor lifestyle. She discusses the challenges of adjusting to the altitude and the differences in training and gear between the South and Colorado. Liz also talks about the benefits of humidity training and the active running community in Colorado. She shares her love for the Smoky Mountains and the unique culture and beauty of the South. Finally, she reflects on the changes in ultra running and the increasing presence of college cross-country runners in the sport. In this conversation, Liz Canty discusses the competitive nature of running and the obsession with Strava segments. She shares her experiences with losing segments to younger runners and the frustration that can come with segment hunting. Liz also talks about her work as an aerospace engineer and her love for Top Gun Maverick. She addresses the internet backlash she received for not having proper rain gear at Barkley and discusses her upcoming participation in the MS Run the US relay. The conversation concludes with a discussion about regional delicacies, including moon pies and Hunt Brothers pizza.
Chapters
00:00 Reconnecting and Moving to Colorado
00:40 Liz's Running Success in the East
04:25 Adjusting to Altitude in Colorado
05:38 Humidity vs. Altitude Training
06:14 Differences in Running Gear and Preparation
08:57 Altitude and Humidity Training
09:58 Altitude and Humidity Training (Continued)
11:01 Dressing for Runs in Colorado
13:19 Adapting to the Climate in Colorado
15:11 The Benefits of Humidity Training
19:34 The Active Community in Colorado
21:04 Strava and Competition in Colorado
23:11 Finding Other Activities in the Off-Season
25:23 Missing the South and the Smokies
28:09 The Magic of the Smokies
29:49 Things Missed About the South
33:02 The Beauty of the Smokies
34:26 Changes in Ultra Running
35:12 The Competitive Nature of Running
36:02 Strava and Segment Hunting
37:24 Strava's Leaderboard and College Cross-Country Runners
38:03 The Significance of Strava Segments
38:47 The Obsession with Strava Segments
39:29 Losing Strava Segments to Younger Runners
40:11 The Frustration of Segment Hunting
41:19 The Importance of Strava Segments to Some Runners
42:30 The Future of Running and the Rise of Female Runners
43:02 The Challenges of Running as an Adult
44:05 Liz's Work as an Aerospace Engineer
45:50 Liz's Love for Top Gun Maverick
47:15 The Origins of the Phrase 'Balls to the Wall'
48:28 Liz's Experience at Barkley and the Internet Backlash
53:17 Liz's Participation in the MS Run the US Relay
55:56 Regional Delicacies: Moon Pies and Hunt Brothers Pizza
59:41 The Regional Delicacy of Colorado
01:00:46 The Combination of Green Chili and Edibles in Colorado
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In this conversation, Rusty Smith shares his journey from being a college runner to becoming an ultra runner. He discusses the role running played in his life and how it helped him maintain a healthy weight and relieve stress. Rusty also talks about his experience as a father and the special bond he shares with his children. He then shares the joy of becoming a grandfather and the overwhelming emotions that came with it. The conversation highlights the importance of family and the transformative power of parenthood. This conversation explores the tragic loss of Rusty's grandson, Max, and how running helped him and his family navigate the grieving process. Rusty shares the heartbreaking moment when Max passed away during delivery and the devastating blow it was for everyone involved. He discusses the difficulty of processing the loss and the decision to run a 100-mile race in Max's honor. Running became a way for Rusty to find solace and process his grief, and he shares how the race allowed him to go to places he couldn't have reached otherwise. Rusty also discusses the power of gratitude and how Max's legacy continues to impact others.
Takeaways
Running can be a lifelong sport that provides physical and mental benefits.
The ultra running community is known for its camaraderie and support.
The father-daughter relationship is unique and special.
Becoming a grandparent is a transformative experience that deepens the understanding of family bonds. The loss of a child is a devastating blow that can shatter expectations and change the course of a family's life.
Running can provide solace and healing in the midst of grief, allowing individuals to process their emotions and find strength.
Expressing gratitude, even in the face of pain and loss, can bring comfort and help shift perspective.
The impact of a short life can be profound, touching the lives of many and leaving a lasting legacy.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:10 From College to Ultra Running
09:25 The Challenges and Joys of Fatherhood
15:19 Discovering Ultra Marathons
28:56 The Unique Bond of Father-Daughter Relationships
31:16 Understanding the Mother-Child Bond
32:22 The Journey of Grandson Max
33:19 The Unexpected Tragedy
34:47 The Crushing Blow
36:27 The Reality Sets In
37:05 The Moment of Devastation
38:04 Processing the Loss
42:22 Finding Solace in Running
44:13 The Decision to Run the Race
48:49 The Moment of Clarity
51:26 Running Through Grief
52:46 The Healing Power of the Trail
56:06 The Finish Line and New Beginnings
01:01:21 Max's Five: Gratitude in the Midst of Pain
01:06:13 The Impact of a Short Life
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In this episode, Ryan interviews Becca Windell about her recent achievement of getting a golden ticket at the Black Canyon race and her upcoming participation in the Western States race. They discuss the last mile of the Black Canyon race, the excitement of getting the golden ticket, and the cost of participating in Western States. Becca also shares her early running experiences with her grandpa and how she got into cycling before transitioning back to running. They also touch on the differences between the running and cycling communities. Becca shares her journey of getting back into bike racing, transitioning to trail running, and discovering ultra running. She discusses the importance of belief and confidence in running, as well as the lessons she has learned from her coach, David Roche. Becca also reflects on the influence of her grandfather and the gift of having a great grandparent. She talks about dealing with a significant injury and her dream of running Western States. The conversation concludes with a lighthearted discussion about Chicago food preferences and fandom.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene
00:30 Unconventional Interview Style
00:54 Congratulations on Getting the Golden Ticket
02:31 Thoughts During the Last Mile
03:14 Planning for Western States
04:05 The Golden Ticket Experience
04:52 The Cost of Western States
05:27 The Evolution of Western States Entry
06:15 The Privilege of Running Western States
06:44 The Competitive Nature of Black Canyon
07:45 The Experience of Black Canyon
08:23 The Golden Ticket Prize
09:00 The Support of Aerovipa
09:58 The Cost of Western States Entry
10:09 The Golden Ticket Experience
11:22 Introduction to Running
12:08 Early Running Experiences with Grandpa
13:11 Rediscovering Running with Josie
20:11 Transition from Cycling to Running
21:12 Finding Joy in Running
22:39 Comparison of Running and Cycling Communities
25:11 Introduction to Cycling
26:26 Involvement in Underground Alley Cat Bike Racing
28:39 Reactions to Becca's Bicycle Gang
30:28 Getting Back into Bike Racing
31:08 Lessons from Underground Bicycle Gang
33:08 Transition to Trail Running
34:37 First Ultra Races
35:50 Approach to First 50K
36:28 Break from Racing and Wildlife Research
37:28 Returning to Running and Discovering Ultra Running
38:19 Building Confidence and Belief in Running
40:28 Lessons from Coach David Roche
41:20 Importance of Using the Brain in Athletics
43:35 Grandfather's Influence and Wisdom
45:05 The Gift of Having a Great Grandfather
46:15 Dealing with a Significant Injury
51:07 Dreaming of Western States
56:49 Goals for Western States
59:00 Chicago Food Preferences
01:00:11 Chicago Bears Fandom
01:00:29 Existential Dread and Credits
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Chad Sullivan discusses the creation of Hard Prairie magazine, a photo-first publication that aims to capture the beauty and grit of trail and ultra running. He shares his journey into the magazine business and the inspiration behind the magazine's unique approach. Chad emphasizes the importance of tangible media in a digital age and the power of authentic and uncomfortable art. He also discusses the decision to not include ads in the magazine and the challenges of being listener-supported. Overall, Hard Prairie aims to facilitate dialogue and tell real stories that resonate with the trail running community. Hard Prairie Magazine is a labor of love that was created for the creators themselves, rather than trying to please others. The magazine features stunning photography and compelling stories that capture the essence of trail running. While initially focused on Illinois and the Midwest, the magazine expanded its scope based on the stories and interest it received. The process of publishing the magazine involved finding the right paper and learning how to put it together. The magazine aims to be a platform for storytelling and does not claim to be an authority in the sport. The positive response from readers has affirmed the creators' vision and passion for the project.
Takeaways
Hard Prairie magazine is a photo-first publication that captures the beauty and grit of trail and ultra running.
The magazine aims to create a tangible and authentic experience in a digital age.
Chad emphasizes the importance of storytelling and the power of uncomfortable art.
Hard Prairie is listener-supported and does not include ads, allowing for creative freedom and authenticity.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Appreciation for Hard Prairie Magazine
02:45 Chad's Journey into the Magazine Business
06:26 Creating a Photo-First Magazine
08:49 The Importance of Tangible Media
15:34 The Decision to Not Include Ads
21:06 The Power of Authentic and Uncomfortable Art
26:53 Facilitating Dialogue and Telling Real Stories
31:53 Differentiating from Polished Road Running Media
33:11 Creating a Tangible Magazine for Conversation and Legacy
34:38 Creating Art for Yourself
36:05 Making the Magazine They Wanted to See
39:00 Subscription Plans
40:20 The Origin of the Name
41:13 The Story of 'This Is My Why'
42:45 The Process of Publishing the Magazine
46:19 The Comparison to Punk Rock
48:50 The Learning Curve of Magazine Publishing
54:04 The Evolution of the Magazine
57:25 Overcoming Doubts and Receiving Positive Feedback
01:03:10 The Purpose of Hard Prairie Magazine
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In this episode, Mindy Smith shares her running journey and the challenges she faced along the way. She talks about her transition from being an ultrarunner to dealing with personal struggles and health issues. Mindy discusses the impact of addiction in her family and how it affected her own life. She also explores the feelings of becoming obsolete in the running community and finding new passions and relationships outside of running. Mindy reflects on her experience volunteering at races and the realities of being a part of the running world. In this conversation, Mindy Smith discusses her journey of rediscovering her love for running and embracing change in her life. She reflects on the fluidity of identity and the importance of accepting evolving identities. Mindy also shares the significance of taking breaks from running and finding other hobbies. She emphasizes the need to champion what you love and not be confined by societal expectations. The conversation also touches on the challenges of parenting and the lessons learned from ultra running. Mindy concludes by highlighting the importance of feeling and processing emotions.
Takeaways
Running journeys can be filled with personal challenges and transitions.
Dealing with personal struggles and health issues can impact one's identity as a runner.
Supporting loved ones with addiction can be overwhelming and require personal sacrifices.
Feeling obsolete in the running community can lead to exploring new passions and relationships.
Volunteering at races can provide a different perspective on the running world. Embrace change and accept the evolving nature of your identity.
Take breaks from running and explore other hobbies to maintain a healthy relationship with the sport.
Champion what you love and don't feel pressured to conform to societal expectations.
Consistency and security are key in both running and parenting.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Importance of Mindy's Story
01:06 Mindy's Running Journey and Introduction to Ultra Running
07:12 Challenges and Changes in Mindy's Life
15:04 Health Issues and Diagnosis
23:38 Exploring New Hobbies and Relationships
25:42 Volunteering at Races and Feeling Like an Imposter
27:08 The Realities of Volunteering at Races
28:01 The Fluidity of Identity
29:14 Embracing Change
30:46 Prioritizing Personal Life
31:43 Taking Breaks from Running
32:44 Finding Other Hobbies
33:03 Championing What You Love
34:18 Accepting Evolving Identities
36:06 The Importance of Consistency
37:07 Parenting and Running
38:38 The All or Nothing Approach
39:38 The Best Version of Me
40:06 Adopting a Child
41:05 Lessons from Ultra Running
43:09 Running as a Safe Space
44:32 Consistency and Security in Parenting
46:27 Rediscovering the Love of Running
48:36 Feeling and Processing Emotions
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In this episode, Ryan interviews Jonas Deichmann, a professional adventurer known for his extreme endurance challenges. Jonas shares his experience of biking across the United States and running back, as well as his previous adventures around the world. They discuss the relationship between running and cycling, the benefits of cross-training, and the challenges of finding nutritious food in small towns. Jonas also shares his favorite moments from his journey and the misconceptions he had about the United States. Finally, he reveals his next challenge: completing 120 Ironman distances in 120 days. In this conversation, Jonas discusses his new challenge of swimming across the Atlantic Ocean. He explains how his previous experience of running across the US prepared him for this new endeavor. Jonas also shares his recovery process and time management strategies. The availability of his book and film is discussed, with the film being available in English on his YouTube channel. Lastly, the possibility of an English version of the book is explored.
Takeaways
Cross-training in running and cycling can have mutual benefits and improve overall endurance.
Cycling can help injury-proof the body and strengthen endurance for running.
Small adventures can provide valuable experiences and serve as a starting point for bigger challenges.
The United States offers diverse landscapes and cultures, and it's important to avoid generalizations.
Starting now is crucial to pursuing dreams and overcoming challenges. Jonas's previous experience of running across the US prepared him for his new challenge of swimming across the Atlantic Ocean.
Jonas aims to spend around 12 hours each day on his swimming challenge, allowing for a comfortable speed.
Jonas's book is currently only available in German and Spanish, but the film is available in English on his YouTube channel.
The decision to release an English version of the book is up to the publisher, as the English book market can be complicated.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Jonas' Epic Adventure
03:13 Jonas' Journey into Extreme Endurance Challenges
05:14 The Relationship Between Running and Cycling
09:24 The Benefits of Cross-Training
12:14 Cycling vs. Running: Jonas' Preference
13:06 The Strangest Clothes in Cycling
14:36 Numb Nuts and Cycling Comfort
15:59 American Contributions to the World
18:38 German Contributions to the World
21:26 The Challenges of Finding Nutritious Food in Small Town America
25:10 Planning and Logistics for the Journey
27:38 Favorite Moments and Scenic Highlights
31:46 Lessons Learned and Misconceptions About the United States
40:35 The Value of Small Adventures and Starting Now
47:28 Jonas' Next Challenge: 120 Ironman Distances in 120 Days
49:00 Preparation and Training
49:26 Recovery and Time Management
50:18 Availability of Book and Film
50:34 English Version of the Book
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In this conversation, Ryan catches up with Patrick Caron after a long time. They discuss Patrick's early ultra running career, his transition to racing in Europe, and the lessons he learned from racing in Europe. Patrick shares his experiences at the Solomon Young Gun Academy and the impact it had on his racing style. They also talk about Patrick's shift to shorter distances and his passion for coaching middle school cross country. Patrick reflects on the importance of finding meaning and purpose in racing and shares his goals and aspirations for the future.
Takeaways
Transitioning to racing in Europe can be a challenging and eye-opening experience due to differences in terrain, racing style, and competition.
Finding meaning and purpose in racing is important for long-term motivation and enjoyment.
Coaching and race directing can provide a different perspective on running and contribute to personal growth and development.
Balancing expectations and enjoyment in racing is crucial to prevent burnout and maintain a healthy relationship with the sport.
Exploring different race distances and focusing on personal growth can lead to new opportunities and experiences in running.
Chapters
00:00 Reconnecting after a long time
01:11 Patrick's early ultra running career
02:22 Shift in Patrick's racing focus
04:29 Transition to racing in Europe
06:19 Lessons learned from racing in Europe
08:59 Adjusting to the European racing style
11:33 The Solomon Young Gun Academy
13:55 Racing in Europe and the challenges faced
16:55 Differences in terrain and racing style in Europe
19:33 Managing expectations and pressure
22:14 The importance of racing at different levels
23:23 Recognizing potential and finding meaning in racing
25:03 Imposter syndrome and self-belief
27:31 Lessons learned from coaches at the Solomon Young Gun Academy
30:24 Transition to shorter distances
32:45 Finding passion and purpose beyond running
37:39 Coaching middle school cross country
41:55 Creating unique race experiences as a race director
45:39 Balancing expectations and enjoyment in racing
48:31 The impact of race directing on Patrick's running career
52:48 Learning from middle and back-of-the-pack runners
57:17 Future goals and aspirations
59:13 Patrick's performance at the Boston Marathon
01:00:06 The goal of having a personal water bottle guy
01:00:59 Patrick's best performance at Boston Marathon
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In this conversation, Ryan interviews Susan Donnelly, an accomplished ultra runner with over 145 100-mile finishes and 17 wins. They discuss Susan's journey into ultra running, the growth of the sport in Tennessee, and the safety concerns for women on the trails. They also explore the physical preparation and nutrition requirements for ultra running, as well as the importance of mental training and building self-confidence. Susan shares valuable insights and advice for both experienced and aspiring ultra runners.
Takeaways
Ultra running requires physical preparation, including strength training and high mileage, but it is also important to find a balance that fits with your lifestyle.
Nutrition plays a crucial role in ultra running, and it is important to find what works best for your body, whether it's through commercial products or simple foods like pop tarts or Twinkies.
Mental training is just as important as physical training in ultra running, and it involves detaching from negative thoughts and emotions, creating a race plan, and developing self-confidence.
Self-confidence is a common struggle for many ultra runners, but it can be built through positive self-talk, setting realistic goals, and focusing on personal growth rather than comparison to others.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Susan's Running Achievements
03:16 Susan's Journey into Ultra Running
08:18 Discovering Ultra Running in Oak Ridge, Tennessee
13:22 The Growth of Ultra Running in Tennessee
15:14 Safety Concerns for Women on the Trails
17:19 Carrying Safety Items on the Trails
18:26 Susan's Experience with Bears
19:28 Physical Preparation for Ultra Running
22:39 The Reality of Ultra Running for Everyday Runners
24:07 The Importance of Balance in Training
26:12 The Misconception of Mileage Requirements for 100-Milers
28:32 The Role of Nutrition in Ultra Running
30:08 The Marketing of Nutrition Products
35:15 The Influence of Consumerism on Ultra Running
40:43 The Importance of Mental Training in Ultra Running
46:50 Detaching from Negative Thoughts and Emotions
50:29 Managing Anxiety and Fear in Ultra Running
53:31 Building Self-Confidence in Ultra Running
59:13 Barriers to Self-Confidence
01:03:09 The Influence of Marketing on Self-Confidence
01:07:02 Conclusion
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Amy Clark, the editor in chief of Ultra Running Magazine, shares her journey into ultra running and the impact it has had on her life. She discusses the joy of combining passion and paychecks, as well as the bond she shares with her father through running. Amy also highlights the rise of women in ultra running and the authenticity of athletes like Courtney Dauwalter. She reflects on the evolution of Ultra Running Magazine and the challenges of staying impartial in the face of controversy. Amy concludes by discussing the potential future of the sport and the influence of marketing on ultra running. In this conversation, Amy Clark, the editor-in-chief of Ultra Running Magazine, discusses various topics related to ultra running. The conversation covers the importance of community in ultra running, dealing with criticism and feedback, recognition and awards in the sport, creative ideas for recognizing ultra runners, the process of selecting Ultra Runner of the Year, future plans for Ultra Running Magazine, personal running goals for 2024, the rise of backyard ultras and their media coverage, the experience of photographing Big's Backyard Ultra, and brainstorming new race ideas.
Chapters
00:00 Combining Passion and Paychecks
01:24 Amy's Journey into Ultra Running
03:07 Growing Up with a Marathoner Father
04:15 Running as a Bond with Amy's Dad
05:35 The Impact of Running on Family
06:43 The Joy of Seeing Your Child Embrace Your Passion
07:19 The Perception of Ultra Running
08:29 The Rise of Women in Ultra Running
09:33 The Authenticity of Courtney Dauwalter
11:01 The Shift in Focus from Men to Women in Ultra Running
12:11 The Evolution of Ultra Running Magazine
18:14 The Growth and Change of Ultra Running Magazine
20:05 The Impact of Blogs and Online Media on Ultra Running Magazine
27:58 The Controversy Surrounding UTMB Ironman
35:20 The Future of Ultra Running
38:43 The Potential Shift to Larger Ultra Running Events
41:33 The Influence of Marketing on Ultra Running
42:36 The Importance of Community in Ultra Running
44:07 Dealing with Criticism and Feedback
47:04 Recognition and Awards in Ultra Running
49:25 Ideas for Recognizing Ultra Runners
51:45 The Process of Selecting Ultra Runner of the Year
52:49 Creative Ideas for Ultra Runner of the Year Awards
53:29 Future Plans for Ultra Running Magazine
55:22 Personal Running Goals for 2024
57:05 Backyard Ultras and the Media Coverage
59:22 The Experience of Photographing Big's Backyard Ultra
01:00:38 Ideas for New Backyard Ultras
01:01:37 Brainstorming Session for New Race Ideas
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Rachel shares her experience of completing the H9 Fierce Dragon 200-miler, a challenging race with over 60,000 feet of elevation gain. She discusses the unique aspects of the race, including the remote and rocky trail, the unpredictable January weather, and the repetitive nature of the laps. Rachel emphasizes the importance of rest and self-care during the race, as well as the support provided by aid stations and volunteers. She also opens up about her struggles with mental health and substance abuse, highlighting the importance of seeking help and breaking the stigma surrounding these issues. Rachel shares her journey of overcoming addiction and finding solace in running. She discusses the turning point that led her to seek help and enter rehab. Through running, Rachel discovered a therapeutic outlet and a way to rebuild her self-confidence. She reflects on the challenges of her past and how ultra running has helped her reset her relationship with food. Finally, she talks about her upcoming race, the Jigger Johnson races, and the technical and demanding nature of the course.
Takeaways
The H9 Fierce Dragon 200-miler is a challenging race with unique aspects, such as the remote and rocky trail and the unpredictable January weather.
Rest and self-care are crucial during the race, and aid stations and volunteers play a significant role in supporting the runners.
Hallucinations and mental challenges are common during ultra races, and it is important to stay focused and positive.
Training for self-sufficiency and carrying essential supplies are necessary for completing the race.
Finishing the race is a significant accomplishment and can inspire confidence to take on new challenges.
Openly discussing mental health and seeking help is essential to breaking the stigma and supporting those who are struggling.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Race Overview
02:05 Challenges of the Race
03:36 The Importance of Rest and Self-Care
04:10 Aid Stations and Support
06:30 Hallucinations and Mental Challenges
08:35 Training and Self-Sufficiency
09:46 Taking Breaks and Pacing Strategies
11:32 The Last Lap and Smelling the Barn
18:18 The Significance of Finishing
25:09 Motivation for Participating in the Race
28:21 Background and Struggles with Mental Health
36:28 Breaking the Stigma of Mental Health
39:03 Substance Abuse and Recovery
39:42 Overcoming Addiction
46:12 Discovering Running as Therapy
52:50 Building Self-Confidence through Ultra Running
57:59 Resetting Relationship with Food
01:00:00 The Challenge of Jigger Johnson Races
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Nah man the 800m is the hardest track event. Balls almost to the wall for twice as long.
The Dipsea is the oldest trail race in the US, launched 1905!