"Should The U.S. Ban Transplant Tourism To China?” "Is China's Forced Organ Harvesting A Threat to U.S. National Security?" An Interview with Neal Dunn, MD (Congressman, FL)
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Congressman Neal Dunn (M.D.)Washington, DC Office466 Cannon House Office BuildingWashington, DC 20515Phone: 202-225-5235Sidney.wier@mail.house.gov
H.R.2114 - Block Organ Transplant Purchases from China Act of 2025 119th Congress (2025-2026, introduced 3/14/25), (BLOCK Act)H.R.1503 - Stop Forced Organ Harvesting Act of 2025, 119th Congress (2025-2026)H.R.1540 - Falun Gong Protection Act, 119th Congress (2025-2026) S.817 - Falun Gong Protection Act 119th Congress (2025-2026)
(Transcript summary and key points are generated by Otter.AI and then edited by Kirk Hamilton PA)
Summary…Kirk Hamilton PA hosts Congressman Neil Dunn (MD/Urologist) to discuss the US banning transplant tourism to China and the threat of forced organ harvesting by the Chinese Communist Party. Dunn highlights that China has been trafficking organs from Falun Gong practitioners and others for over a decade, with estimates suggesting 60,000-100,000 victims annually. Dunn emphasizes the need for US legislation to prevent post-operative care for transplant patients returning from China or from unverified sources and to block the import of organs from China or unverified sources. He also notes the bipartisan support for these measures and the importance of public awareness and international cooperation to combat this issue.
Action Items…
* Pass the BLOCK Act to prevent the purchase of organs from China and prohibit post-transplant care in the U.S. for those who receive organs from unverified sources in China.
* Endorse and pass legislatively the Stop Forced Organ Harvesting Act and the Falun Gong Protection Act.
* Raise the issue of China’s forced organ harvesting with the Chinese government during diplomatic negotiations.
* Investigate and shut down any Chinese police stations operating illegally in the United States.
Introduction and Purpose of the Show…
* The show topic is whether the US should ban transplant tourism to China and whether China’s forced organ harvesting poses a threat to US national security.
* Kirk Hamilton welcomes Congressman Neil Dunn from Florida, a urologist and military veteran, to discuss these issues.
* Kirk Hamilton emphasizes the importance of addressing the moral issue of forced organ harvesting and its potential impact on the US.
Congressman Neil Dunn’s Perspective on China’s Organ Harvesting…
* Congressman Neil Dunn, thanks Kirk Hamilton for using his platform to publicize the issue of forced organ harvesting in China.
* Congressman Dunn describes the horrifying nature of China’s practice of murdering people and trafficking their organs to preferred individuals.
* He compares China’s actions to the Holocaust, emphasizing the moral equivalence of the two atrocities.
* Congressman Dunn mentions that China has been engaging in this practice for over 10 years, targeting Falun Gong practitioners and others.
Details of China’s Organ Harvesting Practices…
* Kirk Hamilton discusses the peaceful nature of Falun Gong practitioners and their persecution by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).
* Congressman Dunn explains the process of organ harvesting in China, where individuals can schedule heart or lung transplants (or other organs) and the donor is killed to provide the organs on the date requested.
* Kirk Hamilton notes that Falun Gong practitioners are often targeted for their healthy lifestyle, healthy bodies and younger age.
* Congressman Dunn shares his personal experience as a urologist harvesting organs and doing organ transplants, highlighting the legal and morally defensible way organs are harvested in the US from brain-dead donors.
Challenges in Addressing the Issue…
* Kirk Hamilton asks Congressman Dunn about the difficulty of sharing this issue with legislative colleagues and the ongoing bills addressing it.
* Congressman Dunn expresses partial satisfaction that the issue is finally gaining traction on Capitol Hill, with several dozen members of Congress engaging in the conversation and proposing bills.
* Kirk Hamilton notes the potential for bipartisan support on this issue, which could be a unifying them and effort in a divided country.
* Congressman Dunn emphasizes the need for action to tackle the problem, as there is no one defending China’s actions.
Academic and Medical Institutions’ Role…
* Kirk Hamilton questions whether academic institutions and medical professionals in the US have turned a blind eye to China’s organ harvesting practices.
* Congressman Dunn confirms that the US trained China’s initial generation of transplant surgeons and immunologists, which helped China establish its organ trafficking industry.
* Now the Chinese do more organ transplants that the United States and have gotten very proficient at it and don’t need more training from outside sources.
* He mentions a bill he managed to pass through Congress that prevented academic institutions from training transplant surgeons from China years ago.
* Kirk Hamilton inquires about the involvement of other countries, such as South Korea, in transplant tourism to China.
Legislation and Enforcement….
* Congressman Dunn explains his bill, The Block Act, which aims to prevent organ transplant tourism to China and prohibit post-operative care for those who receive organs from unverified sources.
* The bill also targets specific organs, such as bone grafts and corneal grafts, that can be preserved and shipped from China to the US.
* Kirk Hamilton and Congressman Dunn discuss the potential for a black market of physicians in the US to use these organs, which Congressman Dunn finds hard to believe and doubts.Congressman Dunn emphasizes the importance of enforcement and penalties for those involved in organ trafficking.
* Congressman Dunn raises concerns about China’s biological warfare capabilities and the potential threat to US national security with data gathered by the CCP on Americans.
* Congressman Dunn explains that China is actively gathering genomic data on populations in the free world to develop tailored pathogens.
Select Committee on Competition with the Chinese Communist Party…
* Kirk Hamilton inquires about the role of the Select Committee on Competition with the Chinese Communist Party in addressing these issues.
* Congressman Dunn explains that the committee focuses on competition with China, not war, and emphasizes that the Chinese people are victims of their own government.
* The committee has been successful in promoting bipartisan cooperation, with almost unanimous support for its initiatives.
* Congressman Dunn highlights the importance of public awareness and the role of media in spreading information about China’s actions.
Challenges and Future Steps…
* Kirk Hamilton asks about the timeline for The Block Act to be implemented and its potential impact.
* Congressman Dunn explains that the bill is expected to be voted on by the end of the year, with enforcement starting on January 1, 2027.
* Kirk Hamilton and Congressman Dunn discuss the broader implications of China’s actions, including the infiltration of various sectors in the U.S. and the need for vigilance.
* Congressman Dunn expresses gratitude for Kirk Hamilton’s efforts in publicizing the issue and emphasizes the importance of continued advocacy and awareness.
International and National Security Implications…
* Kirk Hamilton asks about the involvement of other countries, such as Ukraine and Russia, in organ harvesting.
* Congressman Dunn is unaware of Ukraine’s involvement but notes that Russians are afraid to travel to China for transplants due to the risks.
It’s Time to Ban Transplant Tourism to China | Rep. Neal Dunn, Jan Jekielek, American Thought Leaders, Nov-06-2025
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