DiscoverThat Hoarder: Overcome Compulsive Hoarding#162 From Fibble to Focus: Defibble your executive dysfunction with Jo Cavalot
#162 From Fibble to Focus: Defibble your executive dysfunction with Jo Cavalot

#162 From Fibble to Focus: Defibble your executive dysfunction with Jo Cavalot

Update: 2024-10-25
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In today's episode, I chat with Jo Cavalot, a compassionate inquiry practitioner and coach, about tackling executive dysfunction through a unique concept called "fibble", designed to help those struggling with focus and organisation. Jo shares her insights into treating internal parts with kindness, her own journey of recovery, and how she co-created Fibble as a tool to understand and manage executive function challenges. We explore the importance of personalised support in overcoming obstacles, and Jo offers a special discount for listeners interested in her work.


  • Importance of a compassionate approach

  • Internal family systems and parts work.

  • Viewing internal parts as friends with individual needs.

  • Differentiating exploratory sessions from physical organisation tasks.

  • Executive Dysfunction and 'Fibble' Concept

  • Challenges of executive dysfunction, specifically among people who hoard.

  • Use of the 'fibble' acronym: Frustrated, Inadequate, Baffled, Befuddled, Lacking, and Exhausted.

  • Fibble as a practical tool

  • Jo Cavalot's experience with alcoholism

  • Parallel between Jo's alcohol experience and hoarding.

  • Emotional challenges and non-linear nature of recovery.

  • Emphasis on self-awareness and self-compassion.

  • Jo's significant life changes, like moving to Spain and involvement in the Camino de Santiago.

  • Motivation through personal recovery and organisational skills.

  • Involvement and motivation in Hoarding Disorders UK.

  • Compassionate Inquiry, Based on Dr. Gabor Mate's work, focusing on trauma's impact.

  • Positive impacts on clients with hoarding behaviours and related trauma.

  • Key Challenges and Strengths in Addressing Organisation

  • Common challenges: sustained attention, organisation, self-activation, planning, and prioritising.

  • Creative problem-solving as a strength.

  • Flexible thinking and stress tolerance.

  • Use of a questionnaire assessing executive functioning across environments.

  • Understanding and leveraging diverse personal strengths.

  • Varying self-activation for personal vs. others' tasks.

  • Goal Setting and Personalisation

  • Personalised tools over generic advice.

  • Introduction of the Ikigai concept in goal setting.

  • Use of the fibble questionnaire for personal assessment and support.

  • Understanding and Addressing Underlying Causes

  • Identifying trauma responses and underlying causes.

  • Adjusting expectations based on life circumstances.

  • Holistic and trauma-informed support for personal challenges.

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#162 From Fibble to Focus: Defibble your executive dysfunction with Jo Cavalot

#162 From Fibble to Focus: Defibble your executive dysfunction with Jo Cavalot

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