Ben Simpson talks about his decision to become a professional Referee and how it has helped him develop skills and tools he uses on and off the field. He reminds us that the Ref is a vital member of the Rugby family and that there is no Game without them. He speaks about the training, dedication and hard work he has to put into being a great Referee and encourages more people of all ages to consider following in his path, for the sakes of the Game. Jay is delusional about how many tries he has scored, and James feels old, yet again.