Jack Shih is a friend of Kailea’s that she met while living in LA, teaching his daughter kindergarten. Jack is an Emmy Award-winning Animation Director and Producer. Jack worked on South Park for 20 years (Animation Director and Producer) and his recent projects include being a Director on Clone High, Little Demon, and Praise Petey. 

• Jack’s experience growing up in a family that defended their positions, how he learned to always cover his bases, and how challenging someone can show intellectual respect

• Who we can be draft versions of ourselves with?


• Having a beginner’s mindset, and how challenging it is to be playful without expectation


• Can we learn to be ok feeling embarrassed, or is the goal to not feel embarrassment at all? (Either by being so good, or genuinely not caring what others appraise you as?)


• Being envious of naïve people (i.e. those who think they are good but are actually bad). How are some people unphased by this? Why do we experience second hand embarrassment on their behalf?


• What do we wish for our kids when it comes to avoiding embarrassment? How do we model safety in trying?


• Whose ‘eyes’ do we trust? Who can we soften into being a learner with? When we need clearly defined roles of ‘teacher’ vs. ‘student’ and seek the safety of an authentic leader but reject those who are not capable of providing real guidance.

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To find out more about Kailea’s practice visit www.kaileaswitzer.com.

In This New Season is recorded and produced by Greg Alsop at Don’t Wake Baby Studio: www.gregalsop.com