These are uncertain times for so many of us. 

But, according to writer Maggie Jackson, perhaps there is deep wisdom to be uncovered too—surprising gifts of curiosity, creative thinking, open-mindedness, and ways forward through the (often) unpredictabilities of life. 

In this conversation, Kate and Maggie Discuss:

• How uncertainty might foster creativity, resilience, and mutual understanding


• Why we avoid ambiguity and a few small steps to help us become more comfortable with not knowing


• How the practices of imagination and perspective-taking can help us see the potential in others


• Why focusing on outcomes can close you off from picking up new information, nuance, or other peoples' perspectives


• Why experiences contrary to our beliefs take longer, sometimes even weeks, to process

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