In this episode, Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist Jinohn Marr sits down with Michael Flores, LPC-S, for an in-depth conversation about one of the most painful challenges parents face during high-conflict divorce: alienation. Jinohn flips the script and interviews Michael about what alienation really is, how to recognize it early, and the emotional impact it has on both children and the targeted parent.

Michael breaks down the subtle and not-so-subtle signs that a child may be feeling pressure, confusion, or loyalty binds — from sudden withdrawal and irritability, to repeating negative narratives, to refusing parenting time altogether. They explore how these behaviors often mask deeper emotions like fear, guilt, and feeling stuck in the middle.

Jinohn also asks Michael about the experience of the parent on the receiving end — the helplessness, grief, frustration, and fear that come when you feel your relationship with your child slipping away. Michael offers insight, validation, and compassion for parents who feel unseen and overwhelmed by the dynamic.

Together, they discuss what parents can do: staying grounded, responding rather than reacting, creating stability, and prioritizing connection over conflict. They explore how parents can protect their relationship with their child without escalating the situation — and without losing themselves in the process.

This episode also highlights Michael’s Countering Alienation Course, a step-by-step program designed to help parents navigate these dynamics with clarity and confidence. The course teaches you how to identify alienating behaviors, respond effectively, rebuild trust with your child, and maintain a stable, connected relationship even in high-conflict circumstances.

If you’ve ever felt confused, dismissed, or deeply worried about your child’s changing behavior during a contentious divorce, this episode will help you feel seen, supported, and equipped with the tools you need to move forward.

You can register for Countering Alienation to begin repairing your relationship with your child and learn how to respond more effectively to your co-parent here: https://www.beyonddivorcecourses.com/offers/LoSnQoUH/checkout