Swallow the frog and become the system of record with Luke Sophinos
Description
Will AI erode vertical SaaS? How can vertical software companies win market share when enterprise customers can use AI to build their own systems?
Vertical software founder, CEO, and investor Luke Sophinos joined Rainforest VP of Revenue Aaron Steinberg to discuss the future of vertical SaaS.
They covered:
- Why focusing on just one or two core values can help software companies build a strong team
- Luke’s proven playbook for success in vertical SaaS, and how AI is changing it
- The biggest mistake startups make when building AI products and what to do instead
- One prerequisite vertical software platforms must have before adding payments
- How vertical SaaS companies can win their market by becoming the system of record
Mentioned on this episode:
Luke Sophinos: https://lukesophinos.com/
Luke’s newsletter: https://www.newsletter.lukesophinos.com/
Vertex: The Vertical Software Conference
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