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Author: Nathan Young

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Hey, this is Nathan Young, founder and Author of How to be Second, and this is One | Second, a conversation between two people with wildly different identities where we’re exploring how we’re different while embracing that we’re better, together.

In our vernacular at H2B2, I am a Second, and my co-host Aramondo Davison is what we call a "Natural 1iC".


What's a Second? “Seconds” (people with this identity) are people who tend to have ALL of a long list of natural tendencies, all bundled into one person, like: team focused, inspired by the needs of others, collaborative, high willingness to serve, seeks alignment, sees in implications, and understands systems.

Common roles they find themselves in might be: The right hand, the glue, the everythinger, the tig-tig saya, admin, Second in Command, COO, Chief of Staff, Manager, Integrator, President.


What's a 1iC? People with this identity seem to have grandiose ideas on the daily, dreamer, visionary, tip of the spear, ceo, etc

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Nathan and Mondo unpack their definitions of opportunity creator. Together they explore how Ones and Seconds see the world differently—why some people dump Legos on the floor and others organize them into rockets—and how those wiring differences make partnerships powerful. Along the way, they dive into risk, ego, faith, calling, and the courage it takes to leave a good seat in search of a better one. Then they dive into the messy gap between being nice and being direct and kind—and why so man...
Nathan and Mondo dig into the love languages that shape how they give and receive care—revealing why acts of service define them both, and how that plays out in their marriages, partnerships, and leadership styles. Together they explore how mismatched “languages” can make or break trust between firsts and seconds in command—and why understanding how someone feels loved might be the key to working, leading, and relating better. After that they unpack the complicated dance of giving and receivi...
Mondo and Nathan dig into what failure really means to them. Nathan shares how a challenge from a friend led him to realize he can’t truly fail—as long as he holds to his priorities and keeps his word. Mondo echoes that conviction, saying he’s “already won the game of life” and can only fail by losing a pure heart. That conversation flows into one about the practices that help them reset when life feels overloaded. For Mondo, it’s the radical act of stillness — stepping back from the no...
Nathan and Mondo unpack how they handle pressure when the deadline is closing in—from Nathan’s “Wall of Shame” of overdue Asana tasks to Mondo’s conviction that no outside force should rush a decision. Nathan wrestles with his tendency to go silent under stress, while Mondo leans into faith, patience, and the belief that the right answer reveals itself in time. Next, they explore the quiet rules they live by—personal codes that shape how they show up in the world. Mondo opens up about h...
Nathan and Mondo turn the mics on during a rare live recording of the monthly How to Be Second meetup — a space designed for Seconds to connect, ask questions, and share what they’re learning. In this special episode, the duo becomes the guest, diving into a wide-ranging, community-driven conversation that reveals the heart of what makes these gatherings so meaningful. From honest Q&A to tactical support, they offer a behind-the-scenes look at what happens when people wired to support oth...
Nathan and Mondo dive into the tensions that naturally surface between visionaries and their second-in-commands—from unspoken fears and mismatched wiring, to the unintended consequences of saying “no” too often. Together, they explore what happens when roles blur, why shared language matters, and how clarity around authority—what, why, and how—can transform friction into flow. After that, Nathan and Mondo discuss what can happen when you’re wired for one seat but find yourself in anothe...
Nathan and Mondo unpack the tools they carry into every room. For Mondo, it’s story: scenes from movies and TV shows that become anchor points for belief and vision. For Nathan, it’s structure: whiteboards, frameworks, and sharp questions that unlock clarity. Then they get honest about the cultural pressures that have shaped their identities. Nathan unpacks the tension of growing up with unchosen expectations around race, gender, religion, and leadership, and Mondo opens up about wrestl...
What Makes You Uncomfortable? Nathan and Mondo open up about the moments that push them to their limits—from Mondo’s season of relying entirely on others, to Nathan’s fear of “parking in the roundabout” while waiting for certainty. Along the way, they unpack risk tolerance, trust, and why very different wiring can make two people better together. If you want more like this, subscribe or find more on Howtobesecond.com This is One Second, a conversation between two people with wildly dif...
If you want more like this, subscribe or find more on Howtobesecond.com This is One Second, a conversation between two people with wildly different identities where we're exploring how we're different while embracing that we're better together. In our vernacular at How to be Second, I am a Second, and my co-host Armando Davison, is what we call a natural 1iC, or a Visionary. Enjoy.
Who is Mondo? In this episode of One Second, Nathan and Mondo swap origin stories, from tech trailblazer to “Jesus Walk,” from family business grind to healthy mentorship, and tackle a big question: Is it always love at first sight between a First and a Second? It’s a conversation about sparks, trust, and the work it takes to cross the “chasm” between where you are and who you could be. If you want more like this, subscribe or find more on Howtobesecond.com This is One Second, ...
If you want more like this, subscribe or find more on Howtobesecond.com This is One Second, a conversation between two people with wildly different identities where we're exploring how we're different while embracing that we're better together. In our vernacular at How to be Second, I am a Second, and my co-host Armando Davison, is what we call a natural 1iC, or a Visionary. Enjoy. If you want more like this, subscribe or find more on Howtobesecond.com This is One Second, a conversati...
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