Mondo and Nathan dig into what failure really means to them. Nathan shares how a challenge from a friend led him to realize he can’t truly fail—as long as he holds to his priorities and keeps his word. Mondo echoes that conviction, saying he’s “already won the game of life” and can only fail by losing a pure heart. 

That conversation flows into one about the practices that help them reset when life feels overloaded. For Mondo, it’s the radical act of stillness — stepping back from the noise to remember what truly matters and rediscover gratitude in the quiet. Nathan shares how his journey with silence and spiritual direction has reshaped his life, teaching him that rest and stillness sharpen his clarity far more than constant motion. 

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This is One Second, a conversation between two people with wildly different identities where we're exploring how we're different while embracing that we're better together. In our vernacular at How to be Second, I am a Second, and my co-host Armando Davison, is what we call a natural 1iC, or a Visionary. Enjoy.