Nathan and Mondo unpack how they handle pressure when the deadline is closing in—from Nathan’s “Wall of Shame” of overdue Asana tasks to Mondo’s conviction that no outside force should rush a decision. Nathan wrestles with his tendency to go silent under stress, while Mondo leans into faith, patience, and the belief that the right answer reveals itself in time. 

Next, they explore the quiet rules they live by—personal codes that shape how they show up in the world. Mondo opens up about his commitment to always speak with positivity and integrity, never letting his words become weapons. Nathan shares his principle of “awkward honesty,” where truth takes priority over comfort, even when it makes things messy. 

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This is One Second, a conversation between two people with wildly different identities where we're exploring how we're different while embracing that we're better together. In our vernacular at How to be Second, I am a Second, and my co-host Armando Davison, is what we call a natural 1iC, or a Visionary. Enjoy.