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Progression Podcast

Author: Jonny Burch

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As makers, we're great at designing and building products and experiences that people love. But one thing that we still can't do effectively is design our own careers.

With the help of regular contributors and special guests, I dig into why that is, tackling questions around managing vs making, missing manager tools, soft and hard skills and training, compensation and navigating a new job that's right for you.

We want to help managers to build more satisfying careers for their teams, and designers and makers everywhere to do work they truly love.
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#9: Kevin Goldsmith on the Spotify model and rolling out progression at scale
Back in January I chatted to Kevin Goldsmith, a very experienced technical leader with background at companies including Microsoft, Adobe, Spotify and more. He was at Spotify when they evolved their org, witnessing and helping to shape the 'Spotify model' which has now found so much popularity in teams around the world.It's taken me ages to get this episode out, but it's a real corker for anyone thinking about scaling a team in tech. There's loads of lessons learned around parallel tracks, consensus-driven org decisions, managing a rollout of career progression in a company which had grown crazy fast with nothing and much, much more. Enjoy!Links from the episodeKevin on Conway's law (podcast):http://www.se-radio.net/2018/07/se-radio-episode-331-kevin-goldsmith-on-architecture-and-organizational-design/The Spotify careers documentation:https://labs.spotify.com/2016/02/15/spotify-technology-career-steps/Kevin's current gig, Astrum U:https://www.astrumu.com/Find Kevin at:https://www.kevingoldsmith.com/https://twitter.com/KevinGoldsmithSponsor: Onfido are great 🙌This episode is sponsored by Onfido! They're ruddy great, and are looking for a design ops person (amongst other interesting design and product roles). Check out their open jobs here: onfido.com/jobsWant to sponsor an episode, or suggest a guest? Email podcast@makegrow.co to get straight to me.Me and progression:twitter.com/jonnyburchprogressionapp.com
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