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The TWIML AI Podcast (formerly This Week in Machine Learning & Artificial Intelligence)

The TWIML AI Podcast (formerly This Week in Machine Learning & Artificial Intelligence)

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Machine learning and artificial intelligence are dramatically changing the way businesses operate and people live. The TWIML AI Podcast brings the top minds and ideas from the world of ML and AI to a broad and influential community of ML/AI researchers, data scientists, engineers and tech-savvy business and IT leaders. Hosted by Sam Charrington, a sought after industry analyst, speaker, commentator and thought leader. Technologies covered include machine learning, artificial intelligence, deep learning, natural language processing, neural networks, analytics, computer science, data science and more.

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Today, we're joined by Lucas García, principal product manager for deep learning at MathWorks to discuss incorporating ML models into safety-critical systems. We begin by exploring the critical role of verification and validation (V&V) in these applications. We review the popular V-model for engineering critical systems and then dig into the “W” adaptation that’s been proposed for incorporating ML models. Next, we discuss the complexities of applying deep learning neural networks in safety-critical applications using the aviation industry as an example, and talk through the importance of factors such as data quality, model stability, robustness, interpretability, and accuracy. We also explore formal verification methods, abstract transformer layers, transformer-based architectures, and the application of various software testing techniques. Lucas also introduces the field of constrained deep learning and convex neural networks and its benefits and trade-offs. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/705.
Today, we're joined by Arvind Narayanan, professor of Computer Science at Princeton University to discuss his recent works, AI Agents That Matter and AI Snake Oil. In “AI Agents That Matter”, we explore the range of agentic behaviors, the challenges in benchmarking agents, and the ‘capability and reliability gap’, which creates risks when deploying AI agents in real-world applications. We also discuss the importance of verifiers as a technique for safeguarding agent behavior. We then dig into the AI Snake Oil book, which uncovers examples of problematic and overhyped claims in AI. Arvind shares various use cases of failed applications of AI, outlines a taxonomy of AI risks, and shares his insights on AI’s catastrophic risks. Additionally, we also touched on different approaches to LLM-based reasoning, his views on tech policy and regulation, and his work on CORE-Bench, a benchmark designed to measure AI agents' accuracy in computational reproducibility tasks. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/704.
Today, we're joined by Shreya Shankar, a PhD student at UC Berkeley to discuss DocETL, a declarative system for building and optimizing LLM-powered data processing pipelines for large-scale and complex document analysis tasks. We explore how DocETL's optimizer architecture works, the intricacies of building agentic systems for data processing, the current landscape of benchmarks for data processing tasks, how these differ from reasoning-based benchmarks, and the need for robust evaluation methods for human-in-the-loop LLM workflows. Additionally, Shreya shares real-world applications of DocETL, the importance of effective validation prompts, and building robust and fault-tolerant agentic systems. Lastly, we cover the need for benchmarks tailored to LLM-powered data processing tasks and the future directions for DocETL. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/703.
Today, we're joined by Nicholas Carlini, research scientist at Google DeepMind to discuss adversarial machine learning and model security, focusing on his 2024 ICML best paper winner, “Stealing part of a production language model.” We dig into this work, which demonstrated the ability to successfully steal the last layer of production language models including ChatGPT and PaLM-2. Nicholas shares the current landscape of AI security research in the age of LLMs, the implications of model stealing, ethical concerns surrounding model privacy, how the attack works, and the significance of the embedding layer in language models. We also discuss the remediation strategies implemented by OpenAI and Google, and the future directions in the field of AI security. Plus, we also cover his other ICML 2024 best paper, “Position: Considerations for Differentially Private Learning with Large-Scale Public Pretraining,” which questions the use and promotion of differential privacy in conjunction with pre-trained models. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/702.
Today, we're joined by Simon Willison, independent researcher and creator of Datasette to discuss the many ways software developers and engineers can take advantage of large language models (LLMs) to boost their productivity. We dig into Simon’s own workflows and how he uses popular models like ChatGPT and Anthropic’s Claude to write and test hundreds of lines of code while out walking his dog. We review Simon’s favorite prompting and debugging techniques, his strategies for sidestepping the limitations of contemporary models, how he uses Claude’s Artifacts feature for rapid prototyping, his thoughts on the use and impact of vision models, the role he sees for open source models and local LLMs, and much more. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/701.
Today, we're joined by Shengran Hu, a PhD student at the University of British Columbia, to discuss Automated Design of Agentic Systems (ADAS), an approach focused on automatically creating agentic system designs. We explore the spectrum of agentic behaviors, the motivation for learning all aspects of agentic system design, the key components of the ADAS approach, and how it uses LLMs to design novel agent architectures in code. We also cover the iterative process of ADAS, its potential to shed light on the behavior of foundation models, the higher-level meta-behaviors that emerge in agentic systems, and how ADAS uncovers novel design patterns through emergent behaviors, particularly in complex tasks like the ARC challenge. Finally, we touch on the practical applications of ADAS and its potential use in system optimization for real-world tasks. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/700.
Today, we're joined by Peter van der Putten, director of the AI Lab at Pega and assistant professor of AI at Leiden University. We discuss the newly adopted European AI Act and the challenges of applying academic fairness metrics in real-world AI applications. We dig into the key ethical principles behind the Act, its broad definition of AI, and how it categorizes various AI risks. We also discuss the practical challenges of implementing fairness and bias metrics in real-world scenarios, and the importance of a risk-based approach in regulating AI systems. Finally, we cover how the EU AI Act might influence global practices, similar to the GDPR's effect on data privacy, and explore strategies for closing bias gaps in real-world automated decision-making. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/699.
Today, we're joined by Harrison Chase, co-founder and CEO of LangChain to discuss LLM frameworks, agentic systems, RAG, evaluation, and more. We dig into the elements of a modern LLM framework, including the most productive developer experiences and appropriate levels of abstraction. We dive into agents and agentic systems as well, covering the “spectrum of agenticness,” cognitive architectures, and real-world applications. We explore key challenges in deploying agentic systems, and the importance of agentic architectures as a means of communication in system design and operation. Additionally, we review evolving use cases for RAG, and the role of observability, testing, and evaluation tools in moving LLM applications from prototype to production. Lastly, Harrison shares his hot takes on prompting, multi-modal models, and more! The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/698.
Today, we're joined by Siddhika Nevrekar, AI Hub head at Qualcomm Technologies, to discuss on-device AI and how to make it easier for developers to take advantage of device capabilities. We unpack the motivations for AI engineers to move model inference from the cloud to local devices, and explore the challenges associated with on-device AI. We dig into the role of hardware solutions, from powerful system-on-chips (SoC) to neural processors, the importance of collaboration between community runtimes like ONNX and TFLite and chip manufacturers, the unique challenges of IoT and autonomous vehicles, and the key metrics developers should focus on to ensure optimal on-device performance. Finally, Siddhika introduces Qualcomm's AI Hub, a platform developed to simplify the process of testing and optimizing AI models across different devices. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/697.
Today, we're joined by Ashley Edwards, a member of technical staff at Runway, to discuss Genie: Generative Interactive Environments, a system for creating ‘playable’ video environments for training deep reinforcement learning (RL) agents at scale in a completely unsupervised manner. We explore the motivations behind Genie, the challenges of data acquisition for RL, and Genie’s capability to learn world models from videos without explicit action data, enabling seamless interaction and frame prediction. Ashley walks us through Genie’s core components—the latent action model, video tokenizer, and dynamics model—and explains how these elements collaborate to predict future frames in video sequences. We discuss the model architecture, training strategies, benchmarks used, as well as the application of spatiotemporal transformers and the MaskGIT techniques used for efficient token prediction and representation. Finally, we touched on Genie’s practical implications, its comparison to other video generation models like “Sora,” and potential future directions in video generation and diffusion models. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/696.
Today, we're joined by Marius Memmel, a PhD student at the University of Washington, to discuss his research on sim-to-real transfer approaches for developing autonomous robotic agents in unstructured environments. Our conversation focuses on his recent ASID and URDFormer papers. We explore the complexities presented by real-world settings like a cluttered kitchen, data acquisition challenges for training robust models, the importance of simulation, and the challenge of bridging the sim2real gap in robotics. Marius introduces ASID, a framework designed to enable robots to autonomously generate and refine simulation models to improve sim-to-real transfer. We discuss the role of Fisher information as a metric for trajectory sensitivity to physical parameters and the importance of exploration and exploitation phases in robot learning. Additionally, we cover URDFormer, a transformer-based model that generates URDF documents for scene and object reconstruction to create realistic simulation environments. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/695.
Today, we're joined by Hamel Husain, founder of Parlance Labs, to discuss the ins and outs of building real-world products using large language models (LLMs). We kick things off discussing novel applications of LLMs and how to think about modern AI user experiences. We then dig into the key challenge faced by LLM developers—how to iterate from a snazzy demo or proof-of-concept to a working LLM-based application. We discuss the pros, cons, and role of fine-tuning LLMs and dig into when to use this technique. We cover the fine-tuning process, common pitfalls in evaluation—such as relying too heavily on generic tools and missing the nuances of specific use cases, open-source LLM fine-tuning tools like Axolotl, the use of LoRA adapters, and more. Hamel also shares insights on model optimization and inference frameworks and how developers should approach these tools. Finally, we dig into how to use systematic evaluation techniques to guide the improvement of your LLM application, the importance of data generation and curation, and the parallels to traditional software engineering practices. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/694.
Today, we're joined by Albert Gu, assistant professor at Carnegie Mellon University, to discuss his research on post-transformer architectures for multi-modal foundation models, with a focus on state-space models in general and Albert’s recent Mamba and Mamba-2 papers in particular. We dig into the efficiency of the attention mechanism and its limitations in handling high-resolution perceptual modalities, and the strengths and weaknesses of transformer architectures relative to alternatives for various tasks. We dig into the role of tokenization and patching in transformer pipelines, emphasizing how abstraction and semantic relationships between tokens underpin the model's effectiveness, and explore how this relates to the debate between handcrafted pipelines versus end-to-end architectures in machine learning. Additionally, we touch on the evolving landscape of hybrid models which incorporate elements of attention and state, the significance of state update mechanisms in model adaptability and learning efficiency, and the contribution and adoption of state-space models like Mamba and Mamba-2 in academia and industry. Lastly, Albert shares his vision for advancing foundation models across diverse modalities and applications. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/693.
Today, we're joined by Amir Bar, a PhD candidate at Tel Aviv University and UC Berkeley to discuss his research on visual-based learning, including his recent paper, “EgoPet: Egomotion and Interaction Data from an Animal’s Perspective.” Amir shares his research projects focused on self-supervised object detection and analogy reasoning for general computer vision tasks. We also discuss the current limitations of caption-based datasets in model training, the ‘learning problem’ in robotics, and the gap between the capabilities of animals and AI systems. Amir introduces ‘EgoPet,’ a dataset and benchmark tasks which allow motion and interaction data from an animal's perspective to be incorporated into machine learning models for robotic planning and proprioception. We explore the dataset collection process, comparisons with existing datasets and benchmark tasks, the findings on the model performance trained on EgoPet, and the potential of directly training robot policies that mimic animal behavior. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/692.
Today, we're joined by Sarah Bird, chief product officer of responsible AI at Microsoft. We discuss the testing and evaluation techniques Microsoft applies to ensure safe deployment and use of generative AI, large language models, and image generation. In our conversation, we explore the unique risks and challenges presented by generative AI, the balance between fairness and security concerns, the application of adaptive and layered defense strategies for rapid response to unforeseen AI behaviors, the importance of automated AI safety testing and evaluation alongside human judgment, and the implementation of red teaming and governance. Sarah also shares learnings from Microsoft's ‘Tay’ and ‘Bing Chat’ incidents along with her thoughts on the rapidly evolving GenAI landscape. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/691.
Today, we're joined by Eric Nguyen, PhD student at Stanford University. In our conversation, we explore his research on long context foundation models and their application to biology particularly Hyena, and its evolution into Hyena DNA and Evo models. We discuss Hyena, a convolutional-based language model developed to tackle the challenges posed by long context lengths in language modeling. We dig into the limitations of transformers in dealing with longer sequences, the motivation for using convolutional models over transformers, its model training and architecture, the role of FFT in computational optimizations, and model explainability in long-sequence convolutions. We also talked about Hyena DNA, a genomic foundation model pre-trained on 1 million tokens, designed to capture long-range dependencies in DNA sequences. Finally, Eric introduces Evo, a 7 billion parameter hybrid model integrating attention layers with Hyena DNA's convolutional framework. We cover generating and designing DNA with language models, hallucinations in DNA models, evaluation benchmarks, the trade-offs between state-of-the-art models, zero-shot versus a few-shot performance, and the exciting potential in areas like CRISPR-Cas gene editing. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/690.
Today, we're joined by Andres Ravinet, sustainability global black belt at Microsoft, to discuss the role of AI in sustainability. We explore real-world use cases where AI-driven solutions are leveraged to help tackle environmental and societal challenges, from early warning systems for extreme weather events to reducing food waste along the supply chain to conserving the Amazon rainforest. We cover the major threats that sustainability aims to address, the complexities in standardized sustainability compliance reporting, and the factors driving businesses to take a step toward sustainable practices. Lastly, Andres addresses the ways LLMs and generative AI can be applied towards the challenges of sustainability. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/689.
Today we’re joined by Fatih Porikli, senior director of technology at Qualcomm AI Research. In our conversation, we covered several of the Qualcomm team’s 16 accepted main track and workshop papers at this year’s CVPR conference. The papers span a variety of generative AI and traditional computer vision topics, with an emphasis on increased training and inference efficiency for mobile and edge deployment. We explore efficient diffusion models for text-to-image generation, grounded reasoning in videos using language models, real-time on-device 360° image generation for video portrait relighting, unique video-language model for situated interactions like fitness coaching, and visual reasoning model and benchmark for interpreting complex mathematical plots, and more! We also touched on several of the demos the team will be presenting at the conference, including multi-modal vision-language models (LLaVA) and parameter-efficient fine tuning (LoRA) on mobile phones. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/688.
Today, we're joined by Sasha Luccioni, AI and Climate lead at Hugging Face, to discuss the environmental impact of AI models. We dig into her recent research into the relative energy consumption of general purpose pre-trained models vs. task-specific, non-generative models for common AI tasks. We discuss the implications of the significant difference in efficiency and power consumption between the two types of models. Finally, we explore the complexities of energy efficiency and performance benchmarking, and talk through Sasha’s recent initiative, Energy Star Ratings for AI Models, a rating system designed to help AI users select and deploy models based on their energy efficiency. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at http://twimlai.com/go/687.
Today, we're joined by Christopher Manning, the Thomas M. Siebel professor in Machine Learning at Stanford University and a recent recipient of the 2024 IEEE John von Neumann medal. In our conversation with Chris, we discuss his contributions to foundational research areas in NLP, including word embeddings and attention. We explore his perspectives on the intersection of linguistics and large language models, their ability to learn human language structures, and their potential to teach us about human language acquisition. We also dig into the concept of “intelligence” in language models, as well as the reasoning capabilities of LLMs. Finally, Chris shares his current research interests, alternative architectures he anticipates emerging beyond the LLM, and opportunities ahead in AI research. The complete show notes for this episode can be found at https://twimlai.com/go/686.
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Andrew Miller

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Apr 21st
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Andrew Miller

10/10 podcast about an interesting topic. Today AI is everywhere and without proper data processing, it just can't function right. Additional to info here, check https://www.businessmodulehub.com/blog/advantages-of-data/. Some information overlaps with the podcast, but still, many new tips on annotation automation and quality control. Strongly recommend it to anyone interested in machine learning.

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May 24th
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Flavio Coelho

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Dec 12th
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Duncan Pullen

This was a simply amazing episode. so much depth of information about real life and life changing AI/ML

Nov 22nd
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Daniel Sierra

Best podcast on machine learning an ai

May 27th
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Özgür Yüksel

Thanks a lot for introducing us to the genius of our age. Tremendously inspiring.

Dec 11th
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Glory Dey

A very good insightful episode, Maki Moussavi explains the various points in a lucid manner. Truly, we are the captain of our life's ship. We are responsible for our own emotions and actions. Being proactive rather than reactive is the key to success and happiness! I will be reading this book! Thanks for sharing this interesting podcast. Have a great day!

Oct 15th
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Glory Dey

I love this channel and all the great podcasts. The topics are very relevant and the speakers are well informed experts so the episodes are very educative. Only request, please change the opening music note of the podcast. It is very unpleasant tune sets a jarring effect right at the beginning. Otherwise all these episodes are very interesting in the field of innovations in Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning! Regards!

Jun 25th
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Billy Bloomer

so smart you can smell it

Jun 14th
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raqueeb shaikh

great podcast

May 31st
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Loza Boza

Phenomenal discussion. Thank you! Particularly enjoyed the parts on generative models and the link to Daniel Kahneman.

May 20th
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simon abdou

Horrible Audio

May 9th
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Özgür Yüksel

This is a very realistic and proper episode which explains quantum computing even as alone.

Apr 9th
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Naadodi

Hello all, Thanks for podcast Can we combine the two agent learnings from same environment to find the best actions Thanks

Mar 14th
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Bhavul Gauri

notes : * Data scientists are not trained to think of money optimisations. plotting cpu usage vs accuracy gives an idea about it. if u increase data 4x as much just to gain 1% increase in accuracy that may not be great because you're using 4 times as much CPU power * a team just decicated to monitoring. i. monitor inputs : should not go beyond a certain range for each feature that you are supposed to have. Nulls ratio shouldn't change by a lot. ii. monitor both business and model metrics. sometimes even if model metrics get better ur business metrics could go low....and this could be the case like better autocompletion makes for low performance spell check OR it could also depend upon other things that have changed. or seasonality. * Data scientists and ML engineers in pairs. ML Engineers get to learn about the model while Data Scientists come up with it. both use same language. ML Engineers make sure it gets scaled up and deployed to production. * Which parameters are somewhat stable

Mar 11th
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Abhijeet Gulati

great podcast. do we reference to papers that were discussed by Ganju. good job

Jan 22nd
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