In episode 9 of the Between Two Lines Podcast, Ash catches up with a Chris Payten, a Personal Trainer and Sports Nutritionist from Brisbane, Australia. In this episode, they discuss the following topics:

• How the industry has changed over the last 9 years (how's & why's) , body transformations, rehab/pain, from a mental perspective


• Reflecting on the last 12 months & how it has changed both of us mentally 


• Chris’ battle with anxiety/mental health/panic attacks which eventually led to a breakdown


• The masks we wear in life in different environments to fit in & be accepted 


• The emotions we display and how they originate from childhood conditioning. The power of understanding emotions and identifying them as merely feedback.


• How we can start learning to self regulate our own nervous systems


• The struggle of trusting others & ultimately ourselves


• How to build trust in our lives 


• Healing and what that really means


• Viewing healing as a constant never ending improvement in your quality of life.