How Top CLOs Are Redefining Legal Leadership with AI, Data, and Strategy
Update: 2025-08-26
Description
What separates a legal department that saves money from one that builds competitive advantage? Two powerhouse CLOs, Rishi Varma (Cargill) and Tim Fraser (Toshiba America) - sit down with David Cowen to unpack the shift from legal risk managers to business growth drivers. If you're a legal leader, strategist, or tech-savvy operator, this is essential listening.
The future isn’t coming. It’s here. And these leaders are already in it.
Key Topics Covered:
- The AI Dividend: What it is, how to measure it, and why it’s your next performance metric
- Data as Infrastructure: Why CLOs are racing to eliminate the “search function” and build a legal “brain”
- OKRs That Matter: How top legal departments align KPIs to business growth, not compliance checklists
- Tech Stack in Action: Inside the tools (Copilot, GenAI) that are driving real productivity gains today
- Talent Evolution: What CLOs actually look for in 2025, critical thinking, adaptability, and strategic fluency
- Cross-Functional Power Moves: Why your next big win requires partnering with your CIO (or CEO)
- From Perfection to Performance: Why "excellence over perfection" is the new rule of law
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💡To learn more about the future of legal innovation, visit https://cowengroup.com/
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