[00:01:12 ] So today I'm talking to Chelsea. Chelsea, where in the world are you?

[00:01:15 ] Chelsea: [00:01:15 ] I'm in Los Angeles, California.

[00:01:18 ] dane: [00:01:18 ] What's your big goal today for this call?

[00:01:20 ] Chelsea: [00:01:20 ] A big goal today is to help me zero in on becoming more visible.

[00:01:26 ] dane: [00:01:26 ] How do you feel when you say that?

[00:01:28 ] Chelsea: [00:01:28 ] I feel nervous. I should give you a little bit of a background on me is that I am an actor.

[00:01:34 ] I have been an actor for a long time. I've been a performer and a dancer and a standup comedian and dance company owner and traveled all over the world. And then the thing, and. When I went through my different cycles of awakening for the last seven years, being a part of that industry and I was successful, I had a lot of success.

[00:01:57 ] I did it really well, and going into [00:02:00 ] those rooms started to feel really toxic, like on my actual skin. Like it started to just not feel good. There's so much comparison and competition and blaming and shaming and wow. And in those rooms, it was just too challenging while I was negotiating with so much internally and spiritually to show up like that.

[00:02:20 ] And so I have my own. New relationship to discover with being seen, and I'm very aware that in the last five years specifically as I've been really working with people really end up me really putting myself out there hasn't really happened because I believe I have this interesting block with putting my creations out in the public.

[00:02:41 ] I have had a lot of luck with energetic marketing, so I haven't needed to really happen

[00:02:48 ] dane: [00:02:48 ] and energetic marketing. Well, look,

[00:02:52 ] Chelsea: [00:02:52 ] it's also vibrational alignment to just receive clients that are in vibrational alignment. So I haven't needed to like make Facebook ads or feel like I need to be posting every day or doing Facebook lives like I did when I first started doing this work, and then I fell out of it because it felt so inauthentic.

[00:03:08 ] It started to feel way too coachy for me personally in a stereotypical sense. No offense, but like it just started to feel. Not authentic. So I dropped out of that. And then since then, as I've been allowing spaciousness for me to really feel what is authentic for me and really come home as I keep having these different pops and layers of pier, I call them pups and different layers of awakening or however you want to phrase that or look at that.

[00:03:32 ] And as those have been churning and I've been allowing time for integration and for me to be really present with my clients and with myself and really feel that and do my deeper work, it hasn't felt appropriate for me to be like, Oh, and like, by the way, by living by the moon and I don't have a way yet to do that.

[00:03:49 ] That feels really good. Yet I have the strong desire to be seen and to be using my creativity. I'm also like a painter and I want to be dancing and I channel when I dance and [00:04:00 ] I want to be sharing that and I have this resistance and I know that it's coming from an old paradigm, an old framework of relating to showing up in that way from a place of like, look at me coming from a place of, I can do this.

[00:04:14 ] Rather than a place of sharing, offering, just being present too. And it is as easy as me just doing it and I know that, but I'm still having this resist, like it's an interesting mental loop. I catch myself and it's not often that I have this much trouble pulling myself into another house.

[00:04:35 ] dane: [00:04:35 ] Do you feel willing and able to kind of go down a little bit more of a vulnerable trajectory.

[00:04:40 ] Chelsea: [00:04:40 ] That's how I live. Let's go.

[00:04:43 ] dane: [00:04:43 ] What felt inauthentic about the Facebook posts

[00:04:47 ] Chelsea: [00:04:47 ] at the time, I was dating like a bigger coach, and that was as I was starting to come into this work, like leaving acting, and so I had such limited reference points. For that entire world of like the healer and the coach and all of that, that I really took on a lot of his tools, which aren't bad at all, but I took them on as like, Oh, this is the way you do it.

[00:05:09 ] I was also young and naive in a lot of ways, and so I just was like, okay, cool. Like I'm just going to do it like this now because that's the way we do it.

[00:05:18 ] dane: [00:05:18 ] So long ago,

[00:05:20 ] Chelsea: [00:05:20 ] this is seven years ago.

[00:05:21 ] dane: [00:05:21 ] So you got into coaching seven years ago,

[00:05:23 ] Chelsea: [00:05:23 ] ish. Yeah.

[00:05:24 ] dane: [00:05:24 ] Okay, so your big goal is more visibility in a way that is authentic.

[00:05:30 ] Do you have revenue goals in mind?

[00:05:32 ] Chelsea: [00:05:32 ] Yeah.

[00:05:33 ] dane: [00:05:33 ] What are those?

[00:05:34 ] Chelsea: [00:05:34 ] I love to be making minimum $20,000 a month from my healing work.

[00:05:40 ] dane: [00:05:40 ] And how close are we? Where do we have to go to get there?

[00:05:43 ] Chelsea: [00:05:43 ] Or half

[00:05:45 ] dane: [00:05:45 ] halfway. Okay. And that's through the just natural organic process. So I have a book coming out next year, and one of the first things I teach in that book is that we don't get to decide what works.

[00:05:59 ] It's [00:06:00 ] really important to teach this first because right now what you're doing is working and it's working without you even really working it. Hmm. So when I say we don't get to decide what works, it's almost like what works. Works without us. So if this is possible to remember, it's the difference between having a few balloons and why don't you just go and it blows up completely and then it just goes a full, it's off in the sky.

[00:06:26 ] That's how good it is. There's one that you have to for awhile to blow it up, and then it just stays there and then the next day you gotta come back and, and that's what most people have. And then there's these balloons that you go and then the wind goes out right away. So then you're exhausted all the time trying to do it.

[00:06:47 ] And there's an energetic response testing, if you will, like use dip your finger and then see if it goes boom. You know, you'd put a drop of water on something and see if it fills a glass. It's the same thing as a metaphor. So right now you have the blows up and goes off and works without you, and you did not get to decide that.

[00:07:08 ] It's like what? That goes deep as possible. Like you did not get the choice in that. I mean, maybe you do great work and your clients refer, but you don't get to decide what works. Chelsea, so often what works is staring at us right in front of the face. And all we need to do is listen to see it. There is a danger because now you're like, okay, I want more visibility.

[00:07:30 ] So yeah, Facebook ads, cause that's what everyone else is doing. I'll do billboards. Stillbirth definitely work. Oh, you know what? I'll write little mini adverts in the back of Cosmo magazine. Oh, you know what? I'm going to target people. Inside of Gmail because Gmail has advertisements around it. And any emails that talk about anything that has anything related to do with me, I'll have an ad show up for, which is actually a great idea, you know, or you know, all have YouTube videos that are 60 seconds.

[00:08:00 ] [00:08:00 ] That talk about the struggle someone has and then tells a story of one of my favorite clients and invites people to have a discovery call with me and I'll have a YouTube video and it'll play at the beginning of other people's videos that I think if they're watching it, they'd be a good fit for me.

[00:08:14 ] And I mean, you can do that in a day. You could pull up your iPhone from your car and be like, yo, like, what's one of the biggest, most unique issues that you help people with? Something kind of

[00:08:24 ] Chelsea: [00:08:24 ] niche. I mean, I help people move out of their minds and limited belief systems into their bodies and breathing.

[00:08:32 ] dane: [00:08:32 ] So that's an expert language. That's your language. What's their language? So there's an extra language in their language.

[00:08:41 ] Chelsea: [00:08:41 ] Their language is I get out of my monkey mind and I feel and believe in myself and I can take action in my life.

[00:08:49 ] dane: [00:08:49 ] So I'll give you example one a woman I talked to, a very similar, she's hypnotherapy, not very similar, but you know, she helps people stop smoking.

[00:08:56 ] She helps people get over their fear of public speaking. She helps people leave the house. She helps people build habits to lose weight. So what are some specific problems that people come to you with?

[00:09:08 ] Chelsea: [00:09:08 ] I'm really good with gas lighting. No gaslighting is so gaslighting. I mean, it's a pretty common psychological term these days.

[00:09:16 ] There's like a trillion articles about it. It's kind of like a taught topic word now. I've been studying this for years, but now it's starting to be a thing. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but gaslighting is. When someone pretty much denies your entire experience. So I would say like, Hey, you know, that woman just looked at me weird.

[00:09:35 ] Anything from that small? And yo