SEO veteran Ian Lurie joins Matt Bertram to discuss navigating today's chaotic digital marketing landscape and why traditional metrics are becoming less reliable. They explore how the decline in click data requires a shift to lift-based measurement that correlates visibility improvements with revenue changes rather than traffic alone.

• Marketers must focus on business performance over vanity metrics
• Measurement requires correlating visibility (in rankings, SERP features, or AI mentions) with revenue increases 
• AI generates "average" content because it lacks human narrative capabilities
• Creating effective content requires using AI as a tool within a human-directed creative process
• Small businesses need to focus on teaching their audience and maximizing return on time invested
• The core principles of effective marketing remain constant despite rapid technological changes
• Tracking neutral user views rather than personalized search results provides better performance data
• Testing should focus on revenue impact.

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Guest Contact Information: 

• https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianlurie/,
• https://www.ianlurie.com/

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