Stop, Collaborate, and Listen

Stop, Collaborate, and Listen is your go-to podcast for real talk about eating disorder treatment and recovery. Hosted by a collaborative crew of dietitians, therapists, and recovery coaches, we dive into the messy, meaningful parts of healing - with compassion, curiosity, and a little bit of humor. Each episode breaks down the myths, methods, and moments that make recovery complicated and possible. Whether you're a provider, caregiver, or in recovery yourself, you'll find practical tools, validation, and thoughtful dialogue grounded in clinical insight and real-world experience!

Ep 19: Beyond Fertility: Understanding PCOS & Eating Disorders with Megan Miller, MS, RD

✨ Episode Summary: In this episode, Jen and Allison sit down with fellow CCN clinician, Megan, to talk all things PCOS — what it is, what it isn’t, and how diet culture has totally distorted the conversation. We unpack the myths, the medical confusion, and the real-life impact PCOS has on body image, hormones, and mental health. Megan shares insights from her work with clients navigating PCOS and offers a grounded, compassionate take on what supportive care actually looks like (hint: it’s not cutting out every carb).Together, we explore how providers, clients, and caregivers can approach PCOS with curiosity instead of fear, focusing on individualized care, self-trust, and ditching the shame that so often comes with this diagnosis. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by conflicting PCOS advice or stuck in the wellness noise, this conversation will feel like a deep breath.🧠 Takeaways:PCOS is complex — and there’s no one-size-fits-all solution.Diet culture has turned PCOS into a fear-based diagnosis.Blood sugar, hormones, and mental health are all connected.Restriction and shame make symptoms worse, not better.It’s possible to manage PCOS without sacrificing your relationship with food or your body.📚 Resources & Mentions:What is PCOS? blog post by MeganPCOS Nutrition CenterOvasitol Inositol Powder SupplementRene Jay & Women’s Health Series on TikTokMegan’s Fav IG Accounts:pcos.nutritionistpcosnutritionMegan’s Iced Coffee Koozie🎧 Rate & Review:If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

12-02
52:54

Ep 18: Healing from the Inside Out: An Intro to IFS in Eating Disorder Recovery

✨ Episode Summary: In this episode, we break down the basics of Internal Family Systems (IFS) in a way that actually makes sense for real life and eating disorder recovery. We explore the inner “parts” we all have—like the perfectionist, the food police, the people-pleaser, the inner teen, the one who just wants to check out—and how they’re all trying to help us in their own ways, even when it doesn’t feel helpful.Together, we talk through the goals of IFS, the different types of parts, common misconceptions, and how this model can support healing, self-compassion, and a more peaceful relationship with food and your body. You’ll also hear some relatable examples from our favorite TV shows and gentle entry points if you’re curious about exploring your own internal system.This one is equal parts educational, permission-giving, and grounding—perfect for anyone wanting to understand themselves with more softness, curiosity, and care.🧰 Takeaways:IFS helps us understand the different “parts” within us and how they work together (or don’t!).Every part has a purpose—some protect us, some carry pain, and all of them are trying to help.The goal isn’t to get rid of parts, but to build connection so they can work with us instead of against us.Parts often fall into 3 categories: Managers, Firefighters, and Exiles.Our Self—the calm, compassionate, grounded inner leader—is who we want steering the ship. Eating disorder behaviors can be seen as protective strategies to manage emotional pain or overwhelm.All parts are welcome. Healing comes from understanding, not silencing, the parts of you that are struggling.📚 Resources & Mentions:What is Internal Family Systems blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/what-is-internal-family-systemsIntroduction Into Internal Family Systems by Richard C. SchwartzNo Bad Parts by Richard C. SchwartzUnburdened Eating: Healing Your Relationships with Food and Your Body Using an Internal Family Systems by Jeanne CatanzaroWe Can Do Hard Things IFS Episode Part 1 and Part 2 (Dick leads hosts through the IFS process)We Can Do Hard Things IFS w/Dr. Becky Kennedy Episode🎧 Rate & Review:If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

11-25
48:15

Ep 17: Is Butter a Carb? How Pop Culture Feeds Diet Culture

✨Episode Summary: From Mean Girls to Love Island to the endless “hot girl” eras, diet culture has been hiding in plain sight — and pop culture’s been serving it up for decades.In this episode, we take a nostalgic (and slightly cringe) walk down memory lane, unpacking how our favorite TV shows, movies, and celebrities shaped the way we think about bodies, food, and worth. We talk about early 2000s media moments that fueled disordered eating messages, how “wellness” has become diet culture’s chic rebrand, and the generational ripple effects of those messages.You’ll hear honest reflections, a few laughs, and some serious “wow, I didn’t even realize that was diet culture” moments — plus thoughts on what it might look like to create a new narrative around body image, one that actually leaves room for real life and real bodies. And, we hear from fellow CCN clinician, Brenna Barnard, with her take on The Real Housewives and Love Island.🧰 Takeaways:Shows like Gilmore Girls and Love Island reflect (and reinforce) diet culture messages.Early 2000s media made disordered eating and fat shaming feel “normal.”Today’s “wellness” trends are often diet culture in disguise.Body image struggles often trace back through generations.Awareness is the first step toward change — you can’t challenge what you don’t notice.We deserve media that shows real, diverse, and dynamic bodies.Healing means questioning the stories we were raised on — and writing new ones.🎧 Rate & Review:If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

11-18
48:26

Ep 16: Before Nutrition Comes Access: Back to Basics with SNAP, Food Insecurity, and the Holidays w/ Lauren Rieker

✨ Episode Summary: In this conversation, Collaborative Counseling and Nutrition owner and founder, Lauren Reiker, joins us to go back to the basics. We explore how food access, SNAP benefits, and food insecurity intersect with eating disorder recovery and gentle nutrition. Together, we unpack the realities of nourishing yourself (and supporting others) when access isn’t guaranteed, and share compassionate, practical ways to approach the holidays through a lens of flexibility, self-care, and equity.Because before we talk about gentle nutrition, we have to talk about access.🧰 Takeaways:Food insecurity isn’t just about hunger — it’s about uncertainty, stress, and survival.You can’t heal what you can’t access. Consistent access to food is foundational to recovery.Gentle nutrition has to be flexible and realistic — not perfect.Access, not perfection, is the starting point for nourishment and healing.Asking about food access with curiosity (not judgment) opens the door to real support.Everyone deserves access to food, safety, and dignity — especially during the holidays.📚 Resources & Mentions:The Minnesota Starvation Experiment: https://psychiatry.duke.edu/blog/starvation-experimentState Sanctioned Starvation & The Collective Unconscious IG post from @bodyjustice.therapist and @dr.han.ren: https://www.instagram.com/p/DQuMZXziVwN/Feeding America SNAP Myths & Facts: https://www.instagram.com/p/DQXIIanE0WI/Why You Might Want to Donate Money to Food Banks: https://www.instagram.com/p/DQWuhHMkZ7z/Food Insecurity and Eating Disorders blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/food-insecurity-and-disordered-eatingWhat is Gentle Nutrition blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/what-is-gentle-nutritionDr. Jessica Knurick IG post: https://www.instagram.com/p/DQm0XbuEjCM/The Intuitive Eating DeckIntuitive Eating Every Day by Evelyn TriboleIntuitive Eaters Bill of Rights Blog Post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/intuitive-eaters-bill-of-rightsLearn more and JOIN Free to Nourish: https://www.collab-counseling.com/free-to-nourish🎧 Rate & Review:If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

11-11
40:17

Ep 15: You Don’t Have to Love Your Body: The Case for Body Neutrality w/Brenna Barnard, LMHC

✨ Episode Summary:  “Love your body!” sounds great… until it doesn’t. In this episode, Jen and Allison sit down with Brenna Barnard, LMHC, a therapist from Collaborative Counseling and Nutrition, to talk about one of the most complicated relationships out there — the one we have with our bodies. Together, we unpack what body image really means, why “loving your body” can feel out of reach, and how the idea of body neutrality can offer some breathing room in a culture obsessed with appearance. We dig into how feelings (not just facts) shape the way we see ourselves, and how therapy, community, and compassion can help shift those internal narratives. If you’ve ever felt stuck between “love your body” and “I don’t even know where to start,” this one’s for you.💕Connect w/Breanna: @healingwithbrenna🧰 Takeaways:Body neutrality offers a realistic middle ground for body image.Feelings about our bodies are often rooted in deeper emotions.It's important to validate feelings rather than suppress them.Understanding the influences on body image can help in managing it.Practical strategies include focusing on comfort and self-care.Mantras can help shift perspectives on body image.Body image is just one aspect of a person's identity. ⏰ Chapters:00:00 Introduction to Body Image and Body Neutrality10:38 Exploring Body Image: Feelings vs. Facts22:51 Understanding Body Neutrality39:05 Practical Steps for Body Image Improvement42:39 Final Thoughts and Resources📚 Resources & Mentions:Body Neutrality blog post by Brenna: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/body-neutralityYou Don’t Have to Love Your Body blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/you-dont-have-to-love-your-body8 Ways to Support Yourself on Tough Body Image Days: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/8-ways-to-support-yourself-during-tough-body-image-days Inside Scoop on Eating Disorder Recovery by Colleen Reichman and Jennifer RollinsBody Neutrality by Eleanor ClarkMore Than a Body by Lexie & Lindsay Kite🎧 Rate & Review:If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

11-04
44:04

Ep 14: BONUS: Diet Culture: The Horror Story We’re All Trapped In

✨ Episode Summary: Grab your emotional support popcorn, because in this episode, Jen and Allison are pulling back the curtain on the real horror movie most of us grew up in: diet culture. We talk about how the rules, fears, and “shoulds” around food and bodies can feel like being chased through a haunted house you never signed up to enter.We unpack the classic villains—yes, the BMI chart makes an appearance—and the subtle jump scares, like unsolicited body comments or “wellness tips” that are… actually just restriction in a cute outfit. Expect humor, real talk, and some compassionate reframes as we explore what recovery can look like when we stop following diet culture’s script and start writing our own.If you’re craving more peace with food and your body (and maybe a little horror-movie catharsis), this one’s for you.🧰 Takeaways:Diet culture truly has big horror movie energy.The BMI chart? A villain that just won’t die.Fear sells — and diet culture banks on that.“Wellness” can often be restriction with better branding.Jump-scare marketing keeps us anxious and disconnected from our bodies.The fear of weight gain is real and often rooted in systemic harm. Food is meant to nourish, comfort, and connect — not punish.You don’t have to do this alone. Community helps us opt out of the madness.You get to rewrite the story you were handed about food, health, and your body.⏰ Chapters00:00: Welcome to the Horror of Diet Culture02:55: The Villains of Diet Culture05:35: The Monsters We Face08:29: Jump Scares in Everyday Life11:43: Fear as the Real Villain14:37: Tools for Survival17:27: Rewriting the Script20:12: Finding Joy Beyond Diet Culture🎧 Rate & Review:If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

10-31
24:09

Ep 13: Feelings 101 w/Rae Thomas of Feelings Found

✨ Episode Summary: In this episode, Jen, guest host Cilla, and special guest, Rae Thomas of Feelings Found, dive into all things feelings—why they matter, what makes them so hard, and how they show up in recovery. Together, we explore some of the biggest myths about emotions (spoiler: they’re not weaknesses!) and talk about how emotional regulation actually looks in real life—especially for folks navigating eating disorder recovery.Connect with Rae: @feelingsfoundcoFeelings Found🧰 Takeaways:Emotions aren’t weaknesses—they’re a bridge to connection and healing.Eating disorders often serve as tools for managing overwhelming emotions.Emotional regulation means responding to emotions, not suppressing them.Caregivers who tune into their own emotions are better able to support others.Emotional literacy can be built through creativity, art, writing, and conversation.Recovery often means relearning how to feel after years of emotional disconnection.⏰ Chapters00:00 - Introduction to Feelings and Emotions03:59 - The Importance of Feelings in Recovery09:52 - Myths and Misconceptions About Emotions14:00 - Understanding Emotional Regulation17:51 - Navigating Feelings in Recovery19:35 - Reconnecting with Emotions in Recovery23:48 - The Tension Between Old and New Approaches28:44 - The Role of Body Image in Eating Disorders33:11 - Becoming Emotionally Literate40:04 - Supporting Caregivers and Clinicians44:01 - Emotional Management in Recovery46:34 - The Journey of Co-Regulation to Self-Regulation49:34 - Understanding Regret and Nostalgia52:37 - Navigating Resentment and Family Dynamics55:25 - Exploring Rage and Emotional Expression📚 Resources & Mentions:Grab Your Own Wheels: Feelings Found WheelsIf You Have Feelings Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2raeRfef6GaOR7XpxjnYuh?si=8ea616e2fb264094How to Recognize Your Feelings blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/recognize-and-feel-your-feelings🎧 Rate & Review:If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

10-28
52:55

Ep 12: Fibermaxxing, Internal Showers, and Poop Frequency: When Roughage Gets Rough

✨ Episode Summary: We’re diving deep into the world of fibermaxxing — the viral gut health trend that’s taking “wellness” a little too far. From internal showers to fiber supplements in every smoothie, Jen and Allison unpack how something genuinely good for digestion can get twisted by diet culture. We’ll talk about the science of fiber and digestion, how it connects to mental health and eating disorder recovery, and why balance (and a little humor) matter more than perfection. Expect real talk, practical insight, and the occasional poop joke — because sometimes, roughage gets rough. 💩🧰 Takeaways:FiberMaxxing is a trending concept in wellness culture.Excessive fiber intake can lead to digestive discomfort, but gentle nutrition means adding fiber rather than replacing foods with high fiber options.Social media influences dietary choices, often leading to fixation on fiber.Fiber has numerous health benefits, including aiding digestion and stabilizing blood sugar.Eating disorders can complicate the relationship with fiber and fullness.⏰ Chapters00:00 Trendy Foods and Personal Experiences03:11 Introduction to Fiber Maxing05:53 Understanding Fiber and Its Popularity08:36 The Impact of Fiber on Health11:50 Navigating Fiber Intake and Eating Disorders14:34 The Balance of Fiber in Diet17:52 Physical and Emotional Effects of Fiber20:39 The Role of Fiber in Digestion23:25 The Gut-Brain Connection26:39 Challenges of High Fiber Diets29:29 Final Thoughts on Fiber and Health🎧 Rate & Review:If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

10-21
40:34

Ep 11: How to Show Up for Your Partner in ED Recovery w/Cilla and Zach

✨ Episode Summary: Whew, navigating your relationship with your eating disorder AND your partner can be tricky! This episode explores the complexities of supporting a partner through eating disorder recovery. Jen, Allison, and Cilla discuss the emotional dynamics involved, the importance of communication, and the challenges faced by both the individual with the eating disorder and their partner. Cilla shares her personal experiences, while Zach provides insights from a partner's perspective, emphasizing the need for open dialogue and mutual support. The conversation highlights practical strategies for navigating recovery together, fostering joy outside of food, and maintaining individual well-being.🧰 Takeaways:Eating disorders can feel like a relationship that competes for attention.Partners must understand the emotional weight of an eating disorder.Open communication is key in navigating recovery together.Support looks different every day and requires flexibility.Finding joy outside of food can strengthen relationships.Partners should not feel pressured to be perfect; effort is what matters.Partners need to set their own boundaries.Celebrating small progress is vital in the recovery journey.Understanding that recovery is a trial-and-error process can alleviate pressure.Both partners need to take care of their own mental health. ⏰Chapters00:00 Introduction to Eating Disorder Recovery Support02:01 Understanding the Relationship with Ed04:23 Navigating Relationships During Recovery09:43 Shifts Towards Recovery14:00 Challenges in Communication19:11 Finding Joy Beyond Eating Disorders24:14 The Importance of Open Communication28:06 Bringing in Supportive Partners29:34 Navigating Support During Recovery38:04 The Importance of Communication in Relationships46:21 Advice for Partners Supporting Recovery52:11 Reflections on Growth and Learning56:56 Key Takeaways and Closing Thoughts📚 Resources & Mentions3 Ways to Support Your Loved One with an Eating Disorder blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/3-ways-to-support-loved-one-with-eating-disorderImpact of Food Insecurity on Eating Disorders: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/food-insecurity-and-disordered-eating🎧 Rate & Review:If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counselingKeywords: eating disorder recovery, partner support, mental health, communication, relationships, coping mechanisms, recovery journey, emotional support, mental health awareness, eating disorder awareness

10-14
51:29

Ep 10: Body Image Buzzword Breakdown w/Cilla Moore, LCSW

✨ Episode Summary:  In this episode, Jen and Allison are joined by Cilla Moore for a Jeopardy-style game to explore common body image, diet culture, and social media buzzwords! We talk terms ranging from the evolution of body positivity to Ozempic body, BMI, thicc, and more. Get our clinical takes and pop culture comparisons. Turn up the volume and get ready to learn (and laugh) with us!Categories include: The Evolution of a WordBody Image LingoSocial Media BuzzwordsDiet Culture ClassicsMedical / Pseudo-Medical Words That Impact Body Image🧰 What You’ll Learn:The pop culture and clinical definitions, and hot takes on a variety of body image buzzwords. ⏱️Chapters00:00 Introduction and Game Setup02:49 Exploring Body Image Buzzwords05:56 The Evolution of Body Image Terms08:28 Understanding Body Grief11:45 The Impact of Hormonal Balance Buzzwords14:15 Defining Healthy Lifestyle17:23 The Concept of Glow Up20:13 The Misuse of BMI in Health Discussions33:11 The Impact of BMI and Insurance on Health38:12 The Evolution of Body Positivity43:54 Body Neutrality vs. Body Positivity48:15 Social Media Buzzwords and Body Image55:23 Health at Every Size and Set Point Theory📚 Resources & MentionsBri Campos: https://www.bodyimagewithbri.com/What is Body Grief blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/what-is-body-griefThe Maintenance Phase BMI episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-body-mass-index/id1535408667?i=1000530850955BMI Blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/bmiHealth At Every Size blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/principles-of-health-at-every-sizeBody Neutrality blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/body-neutralityWhat is Set Point Theory: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/ask-the-team-what-is-set-point-theoryThe History of the Body Positivity Movement: https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/z2w7dp3Body Positivity versus Body Liberation: https://www.theprojectheal.org/blog/body-positivity-body-liberationMovement House Indianapolis: https://www.mvmthouseindy.com/ What is Health Episode: https://spotifycreators-web.app.link/e/HqAYLJ9AtWbBody of Truth by Harriet Brown: https://a.co/d/hoWCtP2 This Is Body Grief: Making Peace with the Loss That Comes with Living in a Body by Jayne Mattingly: ⁠https://a.co/d/d2klrvm🎧 Rate & Review: If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counselingKeywords: body image, diet culture, social media, body positivity, health at every size, body grief, hormonal balance, BMI, That Girl aesthetic, Ozempic body

10-07
51:08

Ep 9: A Parents Guide to Understanding Eating Disorders

✨ Episode Summary: In this episode, Jen and Allison discuss the complexities of supporting caregivers and parents of children with eating disorders. They explore the emotional and psychological aspects of eating disorders, the importance of communication, and the role of nutrition in recovery. The conversation emphasizes the need for a treatment team, the impact of family dynamics, and the significance of education for parents. They also address the challenges of navigating comments about body image and the potential pitfalls of using bribes and punishments in recovery. The episode concludes with encouragement for parents to seek support and to understand their own emotional responses as they help their children heal.🧰 What You’ll Learn:How parents can approach their child's feelings with curiosity and compassion.More about how eating disorders are emotional management systems.Communication is key; ask your child what they need.Nutrition in recovery may look different than traditional healthy eating.Why a treatment team is essential for effective recovery.How parents can educate themselves about eating disorders and their impact.Why bribes and punishments can reinforce shame and unhealthy behaviors.The role family dynamics play in a child's recovery.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Caregiver Support02:34 Understanding Eating Disorders05:49 Navigating Communication with Children08:45 The Role of Nutrition in Recovery11:50 Emotional Management and Eating Disorders14:45 The Importance of a Treatment Team17:37 Curiosity Over Judgment in Conversations20:21 Neutral Language and Encouragement23:37 Measuring Progress Beyond Food26:27 Understanding Relapses and Recovery29:18 Conclusion and Final Thoughts35:33 Navigating Higher Levels of Care38:57 The Role of Environment in Recovery41:50 Parenting and Support in Recovery46:52 Addressing Parental Behaviors52:56 The Pitfalls of Rewards and Punishments01:01:42 Education and Resources for Parents📚 Resources & Mentions:How to Nourish Your Child Through an Eating Disorder Book: https://a.co/d/gmHhknfPlate-By-Plate Approach Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/platebyplateapproach/10 Things Parents/Caregivers Need to Know About Their Child’s Eating Disorder blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/10-things-parents-to-know-about-their-childs-eating-disorder3 Ways to Support Your Loved One with an Eating Disorder blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/3-ways-to-support-loved-one-with-eating-disorderWork with the Collaborative Counseling and Nutrition Team: https://www.collab-counseling.com/contact ARFID blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/avoidantrestrictive-food-intake-disorder-arfidIs Health More Than What We Eat and How We Move Episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2ODbMbuCdb2qkhfC47yJUp?si=WEEVr14pQwSKdV4JtlTo7wHarm Reduction in Eating Disorder Care: Compassionate or Controversial Episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2KYW7LwcAkcWRtbL8g4KTG?si=TD2b1uZ_R-mN4grsMwuzcgThe Difference Between Disordered Eating and Eating Disorders: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/the-difference-between-disordered-eating-and-eating-disordersFamilies Empowered And Supporting Treatment for Eating Disorders (F.E.A.S.T.): https://feast-ed.org/The Full Bloom Project Body Positive Parenting: https://open.spotify.com/show/57ZA6JT6arJG7T9KaVmpzBThe Feeding Humans Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/feeding-humans/id1552454783🎧 Rate & Review: If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counselingKeywords: eating disorders, caregiver support, nutrition, mental health, emotional management, family dynamics, treatment teams, body image, communication, recovery

09-26
01:01:12

Ep. 8 Harm Reduction in ED Care: Controversial or Compassionate?

✨ Episode Summary: In this episode of "Stop, Collaborate, and Listen," hosts Jen Elliott and Allison delve into the nuanced approach of harm reduction in eating disorder care. They explore how this method prioritizes body autonomy and meets individuals where they are, offering a compassionate alternative to traditional recovery models. Through candid discussions, they address common barriers and misconceptions, emphasizing the importance of transparency, community, and small, actionable steps towards recovery. Join them as they unpack the complexities of harm reduction and its role in fostering a supportive environment for those navigating eating disorders.🧰 What You’ll Learn:The principles of harm reduction and its application in eating disorder care.How harm reduction differs from abstinence-based recovery models.The importance of body autonomy and meeting individuals where they are in their recovery journey.Common barriers and misconceptions about harm reduction in eating disorder treatment.Practical strategies for implementing harm reduction, including small, actionable steps towards recovery.The role of transparency and community in supporting individuals with eating disorders.Insights into balancing safety and progress in harm reduction practices.Timestamps00:00 Introduction to Harm Reduction in Eating Disorder Care02:51 Understanding Harm Reduction Strategies07:39 Defining Harm Reduction vs. Abstinence-Based Recovery13:10 Barriers and Misunderstandings in Harm Reduction22:23 The Goal of Recovery: Is Full Recovery Possible?22:59 Understanding Recovery from Eating Disorders27:38 The Role of Harm Reduction in Recovery37:25 Practical Tips for Clients and Clinicians43:14 Guidance for Caregivers of Those with Eating Disorders48:06 Outro + Disclaimer📚 Resources & Mentions:Eating Disorder Task Force of Indiana September Conference: https://www.edtfi.org/events-1/2025-edtfi-conference Nalgona Positivity Pride Resources (one of the leading voices on Harm Reduction in the ED space): https://www.nalgonapositivitypride.com/member-areas-1-1-2Saving Our Own Lives Book: https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/1938-saving-our-own-livesResources from The Joy Project: https://www.joyproject.org/harm-reduction-in-eating-disorders/Resources from Filter Mag: https://filtermag.org/eating-disorder-harm-reduction/ Article By Devon Price, PhD: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shrugging-off-should/202306/why-we-need-a-harm-reductionist-approach-to-eating-disordersCollaborative Counseling and Nutrition Services: https://www.collab-counseling.com/our-services🎧 Rate & Review: If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

09-19
48:46

Ep 7: Is Health More Than What We Eat and How We Move?

✨ Episode Summary: In this episode, we explore the multifaceted concept of health, discussing cultural narratives, diet culture, the social determinants that impact well-being, and Health At Every Size. We emphasize the importance of understanding health beyond just nutrition and exercise, advocating for a holistic approach that includes emotional, social, and environmental factors, and the unique challenges faced by marginalized and neurodivergent communities, as well as practical applications for redefining health and fostering a more inclusive understanding of well-being.🧰 What You’ll Learn:Why this topic is important to our work with eating disordersThe dominant cultural narratives about healthCommon myths/misconceptions about healthWays diet culture shaped the way we think about healthSocial determinants of health and marginalized populationsTimestamps01:40: Introduction03:48: Cultural Narratives and Health Misconceptions08:00: The Impact of Diet Culture on Health12:48: Introduction to Social Determinants of Health19:47: Understanding Social Determinants of Health20:13: Food Insecurity and Its Impact21:55: Understanding Air Pollution and Health Disparities24:43: Health Experiences of Marginalized and Neurodivergent Communities26:31: Equity vs. Equality in Health Care31:05: Dimensions of Well-Being32:47: Health at Every Size Movement38:11: Practical Applications for Health Perspectives42:59: Outro & Disclaimer 📚 Resources & Mentions:K-Pop Demon Hunters: https://www.netflix.com/title/81498621Golden by HUNTR/X: https://open.spotify.com/track/1CPZ5BxNNd0n0nF4Orb9JS?si=6bb405a4abbb43e5Health At Every Size: https://asdah.org/haes/Is It Really About Weight blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/is-it-really-about-the-weight Health At Every Size blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/principles-of-health-at-every-sizeBMI blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/bmiSocial Determinants of Health IG post: https://www.instagram.com/p/CisJsj-rTt2/?img_index=28 Dimensions of Wellness: https://shcs.ucdavis.edu/health-and-wellness/eight-dimensions-wellnessSocial Determinants of Health: https://odphp.health.gov/healthypeople/priority-areas/social-determinants-healthGleaners Impact Report 2024: https://www.gleaners.org/2024-impact-report/Cool Creek Family Health: https://coolcreekfamilyhealth.com/Movement House Indianapolis: https://www.mvmthouseindy.com/ 🎧 Rate & Review: If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

09-12
43:39

Ep. 6 Our Take on The Biggest Loser Doc: Fit for TV with Cilla Moore, LCSW

✨ Episode Summary: In this episode, Jen and Allison are joined again by Recovery Coach and Psychotherapist Cilla Moore, LCSW, to discuss their thoughts on the Fit For TV: The Reality of the Biggest Loser documentary on Netflix. From the physiology of starvation to the cultural harm of the show, we aren’t holding back our thoughts! You don’t want to miss this episode. Grab a beverage and let’s chat!🧰 What You’ll Learn:Our personal experience with The Biggest LoserWere the “experts” really qualified?The physiology of starvation and overexercisingThe long-term outcomes of the show and the harm that was causedDifferent eating disorder behaviors on display on the showHow trauma responses might have shown up on the showThe SWAG eating disorder stereotypeTimestamps0:00 – Intro Teaser + Podcast Intro1:49 – Intro to the Episode Topic5:00 – Context Warning5:28 – Episode Overview6:38 – Our Experience with The Biggest Loser10:51 – The Shock Factor19:244 – Minnesota Starvation Experiment, Metabolic Adaptation, and Overexercising27:43 – Adaptive Thermogenesis32:10 – Observation of Eating Disorder Behaviors37:11 – Contestant Trauma Responses and the Neurosequential Brain Model56:16 – Bob Harper Heart Attack and Contestants in Coffins59:27 – Eating Disorder Recovery, Increased Brain Space, and Freedom1:02:00 – The Difficulty with Eating Disorder Healing and Integration1:05:50 – What The Biggest Loser Would Look Like in the Ozempic Era & GLP-1s Therapist Hot Take1:13:23 – Rachel Fredrickson, “Taking It Too Far”, and the Eating Disorder Stereotype1:17:00 – The Risk of “Trusting the Experts”1:23:10 – Allison’s Thoughts on Dr. H1:27:00 – Contestants' Shirts vs Being Shirtless1:29:45 – Final Thoughts1:32:22 – Outro & Disclaimer📚 Resources & Mentions:Fit for TV: The Reality of the Biggest Loser: https://www.netflix.com/title/81670924The Minnesota Starvation Experiment: https://psychiatry.duke.edu/blog/starvation-experimentHow Malnourishment Impacts Brain Functioning: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/malnourishment-impacts-brain-functioningWhat Happened to You by Dr. Bruce Perry and Oprah Winfrey: https://a.co/d/8QTkJf8Health At Every Size: https://asdah.org/haes/Health At Every Size blog post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/principles-of-health-at-every-sizeThe SWAG Stereotype: https://www.theprojectheal.org/blog/swag-stereotype-harmfulAnorexia/AAN: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/anorexia-nervosa-atypical-anorexia-nervosa🎧 Rate & Review: If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

09-05
01:33:34

Ep. 5 From Outpatient to Inpatient: Understanding the Care Spectrum and Barriers to Care

✨ Episode Summary: In this episode, Allison and Jen talk about the different levels of eating disorder care, what therapeutic and nutritional interventions look like, and the various barriers to getting eating disorder care, including cost and insurance. Grab a beverage, get ready to be a little fired up, and let’s chat!🧰 What You’ll Learn:The different levels of eating disorder care and what nutrition looks like at each levelThe pie analogy for determining the level of care neededWhat happens when the body adapts to starvationBarriers to getting eating disorder care, including cost and insuranceHow we handle when someone needs a higher level of care, but is unable to goOur Hot Takes and Cold TruthsTimestamps0:00 – Intro Teaser + Podcast Intro1:02 – Intro to the Episode Topic3:32 – Overview of Levels of Care9:28 – What Nutrition Support Looks Like at Each Level12:14 – Refeeding Syndrome14:35 – What Nutrition Support Looks Like at Each Level Cont.19:27 – Is the Appropriate Level of Care Always Accessible? 20:41 – Statistics and Barriers to Care25:15 – Cost and Insurance Barriers31:05 – The Collab Hybrid Model and Harm Reduction35:32 – Hot Take, Cold Truth38:40 – Disclaimer📚 Resources & Mentions:ED Levels of Care Blog Post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/eating-disorder-levels-of-careBarriers to ED Care Blog Post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/barriers-to-eating-disorder-treatmentAtypical Anorexia Nervosa and Anorexia Nervosa Blog Post: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/anorexia-nervosa-atypical-anorexia-nervosaProject Heal Cost of Treatment Breakdown: https://www.theprojectheal.org/cost-of-treatmentProject Heal Resources: https://www.theprojectheal.org/Work with the Collaborative Counseling and Nutrition Team: https://www.collab-counseling.com/contact🎧 Rate & Review: If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

08-29
39:22

Ep. 4 Unpacking #SkinnyTok with Cilla Moore, LCSW

✨ Episode Summary:In this episode, we sit down with Psychotherapist, Certified Intuitive Eating Counselor, and Recovery Coach, Cilla Moore, LCSW, to chat all things #SkinnyTok. Cilla shares her wealth of knowledge on body image and disrupting the TikTok algorithm. She offers some incredible tips, tools, and resources you can find in the show notes! Grab a beverage and let’s get to listening!Connect with Cilla Moore, LCSWWebsite: https://itscillahope.com/Instagram: @itscillahopeWork with Cilla as a Recovery Coach🧰 What You’ll Learn:What #SkinnyTok actually is and how it impacts mental healthThe Trojan Horse problem, the 2025 aesthetic shift, and what you can do about itHow to disrupt the algorithm, anchor in your values, curate your feed, and moreTimestamps0:00 – Intro Teaser + Podcast Intro0:59 – Intro to the Episode Topic2:33 – Guest Bio5:33 – What is #SkinnyTok?!10:33 – SkinnyTok, Lifestyle Changes, and the Trojan Horse Problem14:16 – Impact on Clients15:58 – The Role of the Algorithm 19:40 – Reporting Content20:51 – What I Eat In A  Day26:28 – Is it Helpful or Harmful?28:31 – Social Media Literacy and Trigger Translation Checklist30:53 – 2025 Aesthetic Shift37:56 – Social Media Feed Curation Days41:24 – Cilla’s Favorite Resources43:28 – Inner Child Favorites47:56 – Outro & Disclaimer📚 Resources & Mentions:Gorls Who Eat Book Club#SkinnyTok Trigger TranslationsRenfrew Center Social Media Literacy Checklist Semi-Well-Adjusted Despite Literally Everything: A Memoir⁠ by Alyson Stoner🎧 Rate & Review: If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

08-22
48:58

Ep. 3 The Playful Side of Healing from an Eating Disorder

✨ Episode Summary:In this episode, we are talking through how to make eating disorder recovery fun! Yes, we said fun. We know how challenging and long eating disorder recovery can be, so we offer some tools to bring some flexibility, joy, and fun to your journey. 🧰 What You’ll Learn:Why fun in recovery matters and how to start giving yourself permission to have funHow to sit in the suck and support yourself in the grief of your eating disorderThe importance of coming back to your body and younger self to foster healingWhat having fun in recovery can look likeTimestamps0:00 – Intro Teaser + Podcast Intro1:15 – Intro to the Episode Topic2:03 – Overview of What to Expect in Episode3:15 – Why Fun in Recovery Matters4:15 – Sitting in the Suck6:18 – Fun can Help Us Regulate8:50 – Moving through Grief in ED + Bringing Joy and Laughter10:45 – How Social Media and Laughter Can Foster (Body Connection)12:50 – Definitions of Fun15:48 – What Fun Can Look Like18:30 – Client Shared Examples of Fun20:00 – More Examples of Fun24:00 – Making Food Exposures Fun26:30 – Utilizing Tools That Help Your Nervous System Feel Regulated28:00 – TV Shows/Movies as Emotional Regulation28:47 – Outro & Disclaimer📚 Resources & Mentions:The Summer I Turned Pretty on Amazon Prime🎧 Rate & Review: If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

08-15
29:50

BONUS EPISODE: More on the Diet Culture to Eating Disorder Pipeline

✨ Episode Summary: In this episode, we continue to explore how diet culture shows up on a macro, mezzo, and micro level. Join in the conversation with us.🧰 What You’ll Learn:How Wellness Influencer promotion of ‘health’ can lead to challengesHow crafty diet culture is and how it keeps us disconnected from our bodyTips for caregivers with children with eating disordersTimestamp0:00 – Intro Teaser + Podcast Intro2:50 – Wellness Influencers3:56 – Food Intolerances, Health, Medical Fatphobia9:04 – Craftiness of Diet Culture 10:14 – Intentional Weight Loss13:11 – External Cues & Body Disconnection16:12 – Punishment & Cheats18:37 – Individual Nutrition & Diet Culture20:16 – More Caregiver Tips22:26 – Outro22:56 – Disclaimer📚 Resources & Mentions:What is Diet Culture? https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/what-is-diet-cultureThe Restrict Binge Cycle: https://www.collab-counseling.com/blog/understand-the-restrict-binge-cycle🎧 Rate, Review, & Comment: If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks! And, if you’re listening on Spotify, leave us a comment telling us your episode length preference!🔗 Connect With Us:Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/IG: @collab.counseling

08-12
23:37

Ep. 2 The Diet Culture to Eating Disorder Pipeline

✨ Episode Summary: In this episode, we explore how diet culture can lead to the development of disordered eating and eating disorders through a macro, mezzo, and micro lens. We share definitions, examples, key considerations, and practical tips for caregivers, clinicians, and clients. 🧰 What You’ll Learn:The roots of diet culture in other systems of oppressionHow diet culture shows up in communities, families, and schoolsHow diet culture can trickle down to the individual level, moving disordered eating along the spectrum to an eating disorderTimestamps0:00 – Intro Teaser + Podcast Intro1:10 – Intro to the Episode Topic4:04 – Macro Lens: Diet Culture & Disordered Eating Definition, White Supremacy Culture History Lesson13:50 – RFK Jr. Quote 16:11 – Craftiness of Diet Culture19:24 – Mezzo Lens: How It Shows Up in Schools and Communities26:21 – Micro Lens: Belonging, Behaviors Not Being a Problem, Heredity of EDs32:27 – Tips for Caregivers, Clinicians, and Clients37:53 – Outro38:22 – Disclaimer📚 Resources & Mentions:Anti-Diet: Reclaim Your Time, Money, Well-Being, and Happiness Through Intuitive Eating by Christy HarrisonFearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fat Phobia by Sabrina StringsWhat is Diet Culture? blog postFood Insecurity & Eating Disorders/Disordered Eating blog postThe Difference Between Eating Disorders and Disordered Eating blog post🎧 Rate & Review: If you loved this episode, share it with a friend and leave us a 5-star review — it really helps us reach more folks!🔗 Connect With Us:Visit Our Website: https://www.collab-counseling.com/Follow Us IG: @collab.counseling

08-08
39:03

Ep 1. Welcome To Our Podcast!

Welcome to the first episode of Stop, Collaborate, and Listen! We’re so excited you’re here! This is your go-to podcast for real talk about eating disorder treatment and recovery—from every angle. In this episode, you'll get to know your hosts, how this podcast started, and what to expect in future episodes. Grab a comforting beverage and let's chat!

08-01
39:18

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