The Betting Startups Podcast

Ep. 184 features Brian Birt, founder of Griddy, the fantasy football puzzle game bringing year-round engagement to sports fans.   Hear him discuss: His journey from childhood sports fanatic to building products at Sleeper and launching Griddy How Griddy turns fantasy football into a strategic, bite-sized mobile game playable 365 days a year Solving the seasonality problem in fantasy sports with an innovative “chemistry” team-building mechanic Why he intentionally built Griddy as a free-to-play game without real money components How a community-driven approach led to 30,000 users and 3M+ games played with zero ad spend The role of Reddit and storytelling in driving organic, founder-led growth Lessons from Sleeper: building trust and community before monetization Finding product–market fit through retention and user obsession, not growth hacks Getting early believers on the cap table, including Joel Simkins from XST Capital, and why he seeks to preserve optionality for future capital needs How psychological resilience and consistency fuel startup success What’s next for Griddy, from new game modes and rewards to expansion into other sports and fandoms     Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ Girddy website  ➡️ Brian Birt on Linkedin   📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.

Ep. 183 features Tom Lemke, founder of Savage Tech, the world's first true gamified retention engine for the iGaming industry. Hear him discuss: His review of the recent SBC Summit conference in Lisbon How his experience co-founding esports teams shaped his understanding of player engagement How avatars, achievements, and progression systems improve retention and customer loyalty Why being likeable is an underappreciated quality when it comes to B2B sales The importance of continuing to show up "on the circuit" at iGaming industry events and conferences Why he decided to retire from participating in industry startup pitch competitions Lessons learned from Adar Ziv, the self-proclaimed "Chief Linkedin Officer" His experience having just closed a seed round, and the importance of smart money over just money How Savage Tech is approaching localization for markets like Asia, Brazil, and Africa   Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ Savage Tech website  ➡️ Tom Lemke on Linkedin   📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.  

Ep. 182 features Pranav Tadikonda from Pikkit, which is a social sports betting tracker that automatically aggregates bets, analyzes performance, and connects users through community and content.   Hear him discuss: • Why he and co-founder Anthony Jonikas started Pikkit after learning big tech wasn't for them • The switch from fantasy to sports betting after PASPA’s repeal • How they validated the idea through real user frustrations with bet tracking • Their early decision to ban manual entry to ensure transparency • The infrastructure behind syncing 30+ sportsbooks through their in-house platform BookSync • His view on the explosion of tools in the betting category • The controversial Twitter API shutdown and their diplomatic response • Their decision not to commercialize BookSync as a B2B product for now • Their $9M fundraising journey across three rounds and now hitting cashflow positive   Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ Pikkit website  ➡️ Pranav Tadikonda on Linkedin   📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.  

Ep. 181 features Tony Ryan from Bet Caddy, which is building the ultimate sports remote to personalize and streamline the fragmented sports streaming experience.   Hear him discuss: • How betting and fantasy sports make every game moment meaningful for modern fans • The origin story of Bet Caddy, sparked by college sports bars and basement brainstorming • How Bet Caddy delivers a RedZone-style experience for every day of the sports calendar • Using real-time notifications to surface key betting moments before they happen on TV • Drawing inspiration from Spotify’s model to curb piracy through a superior experience • What they learned from their March Madness beta launch and how it shaped the product • Preparing for NFL and college football season with weekly product updates and improvements • How they racked up 25 million organic social views using short-form viral videos • Their monetization strategy combining sportsbook affiliate deals and streaming referrals • The reality of building a complex product as non-technical founders learning along the way • Why Golden State Warriors guard Pat Spencer became their first athlete investor   Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ Bet Caddy website  ➡️ Tony Ryan on Linkedin   📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.

The Gamble & The Glory showcases founders that built their companies into category leaders in the betting and gaming industry.   In Episode 1 of Season 2, we speak with Einar Knobel from TXODDS, recorded in person at the SBC Summit Americas Conference in Fort Lauderdale.   Hear him discuss: The early days of TXODDS and landing first customers like Betcris and World Sports Exchange How a scrappy, bootstrapped journey scaled into a 25-year industry leader powering global betting markets The rise of in-play betting, Asian liquidity, and the importance of clean, reliable data Lessons from scaling a global data business while keeping culture strong and team-oriented Why TXODDS continues to innovate, from streaming data to U.S. college sports coverage Advice to today’s founders on fundraising, monetization, and building for longevity Video version of this episode can be viewed here. Learn more 👇 ➡️ TXODDS website ➡️ Einar Knobe on Linkedin  If you’re at SBC Lisbon, be sure to drop by TXODDS’ Trev’s Bar in Hall 3 at C320 to say hello to Einar, Trevor and the TXODDS team!   The Gamble & The Glory is made possible by Segev LLP, a full solutions law firm purpose-built for the gaming and betting industry. To learn more, visit: www.segev.ca.

Ep. 180 features Zach Wick from BtrBet, which is a SaaS platform offering a white-labeled tool stack for sports betting creators to manage content, engage audiences, and monetize their communities.   Hear him discuss: • How legal sports betting in Ohio sparked his idea to build a personal betting tracker • The pain points of spreadsheets and the inspiration behind automating bet syncing and analysis • The evolution from a consumer app to a full-stack community tool for content creators • How BtrBet users are building engaged communities on their own branded domains • The business model built around tool subscriptions, with creators keeping 100% of their affiliate revenue • One creator’s story of hitting nearly $1,000 MRR within one week of launching on BtrBet • Key lessons from joining Stripe as employee ~250 and watching it grow to over 8,000 people • Why BtrBet is bootstrapped, and how they're nearing profitability solely through revenue • The challenges of running a lean two-person startup and what he wishes he knew before founding   Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ BtrBet website  ➡️ Zach Wick on Linkedin   📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.

Ep. 179 features Ryan Murphy of SharpSports and Vijay Dewan from Pine Sports, who sit down to talk through their recent merger to form the new Pine Sports, a full-stack sports data and AI company serving both bettors and B2B partners.   Hear them discuss: • The origin story and strategic rationale behind the Pine Sports and SharpSports merger • How mutual investor Chris Grove sparked the deal by introducing the two founders • How the merger combines SharpSports’ B2B infrastructure with Pine Sports’ consumer-facing AI tools • Why clean data pipelines are essential to powering jaXon, Pine’s chat-based betting assistant • What they've learned from launching LLMs into real betting workflows with jaXon • The future of “autonomous betting” and where they see chat interfaces playing a role • How they’ve integrated tech stacks and restructured roles across the combined team • Their strategy to scale both the SharpSports API and Pine Sports’ user base • How big‑name athlete Marshawn Lynch is backing the company, and how his endorsement is boosting Pine Sports' brand credibility • Trends in how casual and sharp bettors are adopting new tooling • Why they view betting tools as an underserved and high-growth category • How Ryan and Vijay split responsibilities and stay aligned post-merger Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ Pine Sports website  ➡️ SharpSports website  ➡️ Vijay Dewan on Linkedin ➡️ Ryan Murphy on Linkedin   📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.

Ep. 178 features Trent Hoerr from BullRush, which is a gamified platform offering multi-participant competitions using virtual currency with real cash prizes.   Hear him discuss: • His early days as a professional runner turned prop trader during the 2008 financial crisis • The legal and regulatory path to proving BullRush competitions as games of skill • Why he believes traders often overlap with sports bettors due to shared analytical skills • The significance of peer-to-peer competition and restoring the social side of betting • BullRush’s growth to 150,000 users across 170 countries since launching in 2023 • How he bootstrapped BullRush using profits from his previous startup • Their current NFL Survivor contest with a $100K prize pool • Why he believes BullRush can grow to 5M+ users as more bettors get limited by sportsbooks • The long-term convergence of financial trading and sports betting platforms   Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ BullRush website  ➡️ Trent Hoerr on Linkedin   📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.

Ep. 177 is the official First Pitch preview episode, where we will meet the 5 startups selected to present at SBC Summit on September 18 in Lisbon, Portugal.   Sue Schneider, Co-founder of Defy the Odds, shares her perspective of the upcoming event, highlighting the global nature of this year’s competition with finalists representing 5 different countries across 3 continents, the evolution of First Pitch, and the opportunities for all startups at the Summit.   In this episode, you will hear from the five finalists: AI Stats, Alexey Vorobey Betpass, Bruno Barroso ChatBet AI, Joshua Swerdlow LiveDuel, Will Martin Nandemo Draft Co., Keigo Namiki   SBC First Pitch brings together some of the most exciting startups within the betting and gaming industry to compete for a chance to win an exclusive prize package, valued at over €90,000 to assist in the winner’s development and growth plans.   The First Pitch event is hosted by BettingStartups.com's Jesse Learmonth. Judges for the event: Martin Collins from Soft2Bet Lloyd Danzig from Sharp Alpha Dee Maher from La Royale Group Mark Phillip from Metabet Andrew Reader from Velo Capital Partners   If you don't have a ticket for the event yet, use discount code BETTINGSTARTUPSVIP for $300 off your pass. Grab your ticket here: https://sbcevents.com/sbc-summit/ticket-options/ -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.  

Ep. 176 features Reid Rooney from Betsperts Group, which acquires and builds brands with loyal, engaged communities in fantasy sports, golf, and sports betting.   Hear him discuss: How Betsperts began by exploring crypto, cannabis, and sports betting before ultimately focusing on sports betting Applying a Stanley Black & Decker “multi-brand” mindset to execute a roll-up strategy in sports media How he was able to partner up with Matthew Berry and Paige Spiranac Mapping out a portfolio that includes 4for4, Dynasty League Football, Bleacher Nation, and Fantasy National Why a strong, engaged community is the non-negotiable of any acquisition target Avoiding quick changes after an acquisition to protect brand loyalty and customer retention Structuring deals with flexible mixes of cash, equity, and earnouts to align incentives Raising over eight figures in capital from top U.S. and international investors Managing founder burnout, embracing therapy, and making time to celebrate wins Short- and long-term growth ambitions, including positioning for iGaming in the U.S.   Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ Betsperts website  ➡️ Reid Rooney on Linkedin   📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.

Ep. 175 features Rick Allec from OddsLogic, a classic odds screen platform delivering real-time betting data to both sportsbooks and bettors, built by one of the industry’s most experienced operators.   Hear him discuss: How he’s launched 3 data startups over 25+ years, including Sports Options and OddsLogic Why he merged Sports Options into Don Best after a decade of head-to-head competition The story behind Don Best’s acquisition by Scientific Games post-PASPA Why Rick left media/pick-selling behind to return to his first love: data How OddsLogic launched in late 2023 and now supports real-time screens and API feeds The planned rollout of player props and positive EV alerting ahead of NFL season Why Rick believes a usable interface is still the biggest differentiator in betting tools How he’s bootstrapped every company he’s built—and why he has no regrets What it’s like keeping the same core team together across 3 startups and 20+ years His take on the sports betting graveyard—and why “fun” still matters most in B2C His 5-year vision to power sportsbooks with real-time alerts, data tools, and risk profiling   Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ OddsLogic website  ➡️ Rick Allec on Linkedin   📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.

Ep. 174 features Evan Fisher from Sparket, which is a B2B platform helping operators reach new demographics through alternative betting markets and gamified slots. Hear him discuss: How he and co-founder Aaron built Sparket after work hours while still at Google and in finance Why Sparket is doubling down on alternative markets like pop culture and reality TV to attract underserved bettors New partnerships with Penn Entertainment and Wonder Nation, and what they signal about Sparket’s momentum Their soon-to-be-granted patent for AI-powered market creation, filed back in 2020 How Sparket raised ~$2.5M through angel investors while avoiding institutional capital (so far) What winning “Startup of the Year” at The Starties meant to him and why it felt different from other industry awards His honest take on the mental toll of founding a startup, and how he manages the grind Why gratitude, yoga, and stepping away from the screen help him stay sane while building How Sparket is preparing for NFL season with Swift-Kelce-themed contests and slot-credit tie-ins   Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ Sparket website  ➡️ Evan Fisher on Linkedin ➡️ Check out Evan's article here.   📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.  

Ep. 173 features Kenny Huang from TinyRex Games, which is building next-generation instant games at the intersection of social and iGaming.   Hear him discuss: How his experience at EA and Bluebat Games led to founding TinyRex Games during the pandemic Why TinyRex focuses on “original, edgy, cheeky” instant games beyond traditional slots How their catalog has grown from 3 to 12+ games in just the past year Why the crash game format has become so popular amongst players (and profitable for operators) Why TinyRex targets both crypto and traditional iGaming operators with its distribution strategy How aggregator partnerships complement direct operator integrations for better margins and branded exclusives Why he decided not to raise institutional capital to grow Tiny Rex, instead favoring revenue-led growth His lessons from the Bluebat acquisition, and why he’s prioritizing resilience and independence this time   Applications now open for SBC Summit First Pitch competition returning to Lisbon this September 16-18. Eligible startups can submit their applications until July 25 for a shot at over $100,000 worth of prizes.    Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ TinyRex Games website  ➡️ Kenny Huang on Linkedin     📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.  

Ep. 172 features Richard Acosta from Vor Interactive, a UK-based sports data provider creating proprietary first-party data and predictive models.    Hear him discuss: How a soccer algorithm built by his co-founder sparked Vor's launch and first predictive model Why their proprietary data now generates 2,000+ prediction points per soccer match across 50+ global leagues How they’ve expanded from soccer into NFL, college sports, cricket, and tennis while focusing on first-party data Why they chose a B2B model delivering data products to affiliates and operators instead of professional betting How their predictive data powers both marketing widgets and pricing models for iGaming companies How Vor designed a simple integration process that lets partners go live in under 48 hours The early traction they’ve seen with Odds Shark in the US and Hub Affiliations in Italy, including strong early conversion rates Why Richard believes staying lean and agile is key as they scale globally and expand their APIs and productized solutions His long-term vision to grow Vor Interactive into a major global sports data supplier over the next five years   Applications now open for SBC Summit First Pitch competition returning to Lisbon this September 16-18. Eligible startups can submit their applications until July 25 for a shot at over $100,000 worth of prizes.    Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ VOR Interactive website  ➡️ Richard Acosta on Linkedin     📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.  

Ep. 171 features Ben Howard from EdgeSports, which offers sports data and predictive AI at your fingertips. Ben shares how the company is capitalizing on the growth of live betting, building modular tech for both consumers and B2B clients, and bootstrapping the business using its own prediction engine.   Hear them discuss: The journey from sneaker software to Penn Entertainment to founder How a winning parlay sparked the earliest version of Edge Sports What makes their predictive models different from other research tools Why live betting is the future—and how they’re solving for latency The surprising win rates from their early Discord testing How B2B traction in Discords and peer-to-peer betting helps fund growth Why they’ve spent $0 on marketing to date and hit 10,000+ users How sportsbooks limiting users shapes their roadmap and partnerships What Edge Sports learned from SBC’s First Pitch and Startup Zone Their plan to launch live predictions in time for the NFL season Where Ben sees EdgeSports heading over the next five years   Applications now open for SBC Summit First Pitch competition returning to Lisbon this September 16-18. Eligible startups can submit their applications until July 25 for a shot at over $100,000 worth of prizes.    Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ EdgeSports website  ➡️ Ben Howard on Linkedin     📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.

Ep. 170 features John Wright from StatsDrone, a business intelligence platform helping affiliates eliminate revenue leak and unlock more value from their data. John shares how the company is centralizing fragmented affiliate stats, building tools for operators, and uncovering hidden opportunities in iGaming’s affiliate ecosystem.   Hear them discuss: The origin story from professional gambler to affiliate tech founder How revenue leak inspired the earliest version of StatsDrone Why “business intelligence” became the heart of their value proposition Who uses the platform today—from SEO affiliates to large networks How StatsDrone is building a global map of affiliate sites and links The surprising ROI hiding in broken tracking and closed casino Why affiliate CRM remains an underdeveloped opportunity How operators and affiliate managers are starting to use their insights What it’s like navigating investor interest and potential exit offers His two-year vision to unlock billions in affiliate-side revenue optimization   Applications now open for SBC Summit First Pitch competition returning to Lisbon this September 16-18. Eligible startups can submit their applications until July 25 for a shot at over $100,000 worth of prizes.    Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ StatsDrone website  ➡️ John Wright on Linkedin     📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.

Ep. 169 features Steven Kenway from Rolling Insights, a multi-sport data platform delivering reliable data to everyone from sharp bettors to startup founders. Steven shares how the team built powerful analytics tools and a developer-friendly API ecosystem to level the playing field in sports data access.   Hear them discuss: • How Rolling Insights spun out of a real estate startup and consultancy • Why Steven believes most fantasy leagues are won by spreadsheet junkies • How acquiring a U.S. data engine became a turning point for the company • Where Rolling Insights fits into the official vs. unofficial data debate • Why startups are the primary customers for their B2B data feeds • The growing demand from sharp bettors and AI modelers • How SportWise and the Breakaway Accelerator fit into their ecosystem • The technical challenges of scraping fast-paced sports like darts • Why he says “you gotta flow like water” when running a startup • His long-term vision to become an official data provider   Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ Rolling Insights website  ➡️ Steven Kenway on Linkedin     📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.

Ep. 168 features Davis Catlin from Discerning Capital, which invests at the intersection of betting, sports, media, and technology. This episode was recorded on-site at SBC Summit North America 2025 in Fort Lauderdale.   Hear him discuss: Why starting Discerning Capital gave him new empathy for founders Building a deal-by-deal investor network in a regulated industry The playbook behind their first investment in Australian operator Picklebet Why Midnite is a “challenger brand” winning with faster paybacks How SlotCycle is unlocking a hidden market for used slot machines The opportunity in underinvested profit pools in Australia and the UK His high-level thesis on the total addressable market nearing $100B How the capital flow into sweepstakes models may be slowing Prediction markets like Kalshi and the regulatory gray zone they face What a Bet365 acquisition could look like—and why DraftKings might care Why Discerning Capital is launching a new program for user acquisition/growth  financing How it works: non-dilutive revolving credit tied to ad performance Why it's a win-win model for operators with strong unit economics   Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ Discerning Capital website  ➡️ Davis Catlin on Linkedin The Canadian Gaming Summit is happening June 17–19 in Toronto! Don’t miss out — get 50% off your Full Event Pass using code BETTINGSTARTUPSVIP at checkout. Grab your ticket now: https://sbcevents.com/canadian-gaming-summit/ticket-options/   📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.

Ep. 167 features Gino Donati from BetOPENLY, a peer-to-peer betting exchange eliminating the traditional sportsbook model by letting users bet directly against each other at true odds. This episode was recorded on-site at SBC Summit North America 2025 in Fort Lauderdale.   Hear him discuss: Growing up in a sports-betting Italian family and booking bets in high school How running numbers for syndicates gave him a window into the business Why BetOPENLY was originally built offshore and pre-PASPA repeal The core value prop of “win more, lose less” and how the 1% fee works How trolls on TikTok helped drive the platform’s early growth Why casual bettors and big action players both find value in the model How BetOPENLY avoids deposit bonuses and operates with ultra-thin margins Their “bet with friends” feature and zero-fee social sharing mechanic How the team is solving liquidity challenges through third-party partnerships with companies like Kutt, BettorEdge, and THNDR The legal framework that enables BetOPENLY to operate in 45 U.S. states Expansion plans including peer-to-peer blackjack, DFS, and prediction markets Gino’s other startup, Seed to Scale, and how he self-funds BetOPENLY Why he’s in no rush to raise or exit—and where he sees the ceiling for P2P betting   Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ BetOPENLY website  ➡️ Gino Donati on Linkedin The Canadian Gaming Summit is happening June 17–19 in Toronto! Don’t miss out — get 50% off your Full Event Pass using code BETTINGSTARTUPSVIP at checkout. Grab your ticket now: https://sbcevents.com/canadian-gaming-summit/ticket-options/   📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.

Ep. 166 features Steve “Dakota” Happas and Sahil Patel from FantasySpin, a real-money DFS platform reinventing the fantasy experience through a gamified, slot-style draft mechanic. This episode was recorded on-site at SBC Summit North America 2025 in Fort Lauderdale. Hear them discuss: How a friendly fantasy football bet led to the founding of BettorFantasy Steve’s journey from online poker and dating platforms to fantasy sports Why the two companies merged to form FantasySpin and how the deal came together How their slot-style drafting system introduces luck, skill, and replayability Why FantasySpin rewards users even when players in their lineup don’t play The biggest lessons from their first full NFL season post-merger How their gameplay translates into highly engaging, video-first marketing Why their future plans include spin-to-pick hybrid formats and arcade modes How they’re self-funding growth while selectively exploring strategic capital Their long-term vision to become the next billion-dollar DFS platform   Catch the video version of this episode here.   Learn more 👇 ➡️ FantasySpin website  ➡️ Steve Happas on Linkedin ➡️ Sahil Patel on Linkedin The Canadian Gaming Summit is happening June 17–19 in Toronto! Don’t miss out — get 50% off your Full Event Pass using code BETTINGSTARTUPSVIP at checkout. Grab your ticket now: https://sbcevents.com/canadian-gaming-summit/ticket-options/   📩 Get the top headlines from the industry's most promising growth-stage companies every week—totally free! Subscribe to the Betting Startups newsletter here: https://news.bettingstartups.com/   -- This podcast is presented by Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry. Since 2012, Optimove has served iGaming Operators from startups to industry leaders. Today, 4 out of the Top 5 US Operators Personalize Player Experiences with Optimove. iGaming operators know their growth journey begins and continues with Optimove, the #1 CRM Marketing solution for the iGaming industry.