In this powerful recap, Lesley and Brad reflect on Joy Hoover’s inspiring interview about redefining women’s safety through community and innovation. They highlight how Joy is working to change harmful narratives around victim shaming and help people recognize red flags before it’s too late. From revolutionary tools for drink spiking prevention to bold leadership in gender-based violence advocacy, this episode is a call to rethink how we can band and protect one another.

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• How Joy Hoover is using innovation to revolutionize women’s safety.
• Why collective action is more powerful than doing it alone.
• The real cost of gender-based violence and what we can do about it.
• The importance of storytelling and community in social impact work.
• Why listening to survivors is key to building safer communities.

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Episode Transcript:

Lesley Logan 0:00   

Women aren't being believed as much or or the blame is on them for putting themselves in the situations. And I think like if we can all think about it differently, we can actually start to spot things and support people instead of going well, how did that happen to them? 

Lesley Logan 0:16   

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 0:55   

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the groundbreaking convo I had with Joy Hoover in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now and go listen to that one, or listen to this one and then listen to that one. You can do whatever order you want, but it's one you have to listen to. 

Brad Crowell 0:58   

Whatever you want. 

Lesley Logan 1:00   

I mean, I say it on all episodes, you got to go listen to it because, you know, we can only cover so much of what the guest said, but it's also like quite a unique, amazing thing. So Today is August 14th 2025 and it's got two things for you. I'm sure Brad want me to choose. I'm not going to do it. National, it's National Financial Awareness Day. So how much would you like to bet that most people don't know August 14th is National Financial Awareness Day?

Brad Crowell 1:43   

Well, it's about betting. They were being cute. I think it's cute. 

Lesley Logan 1:46   

They still managed to say the date and the name. 

Brad Crowell 1:49   

100% of the time they answer the question, they re-ask the question when answering the question always.

Lesley Logan 1:54   

It's more important than you think. And plus, what's more fun than financial independence?

Brad Crowell 1:58   

What is more fun? Yay. Skippy.

Lesley Logan 2:01   

Hey, you know what? Financial independence is literally the thing that, if you have you can do anything you want. You can leave any job, shitty relationship, shitty situation. Financial independence is like the thing. It's more, I think it's more important than just like, the ability to walk, you need to have financial independence.

Brad Crowell 2:19   

It's funny because it sounds silly, but at the same time, it's not something that anyone ever talks about. Like, no one, like, you're not taught this stuff at school. Right?

Lesley Logan 2:32   

Yeah, no, you're, no. I think I was taught to balance a checkbook, as if that did anything for me. But I like, I think about Tia Leving's episode. 

Brad Crowell 2:39   

I have to say I was thinking about that.

Lesley Logan 2:41   

And I think about.

Brad Crowell 2:42   

If y'all don't remember, she was stuck in an abusive relationship where she had no control over the finances, and she couldn't leave, even though it was abusive, because if she did, she. 

Lesley Logan 2:52   

Would lose her kids. 

Brad Crowell 2:54   

She would lose her kids because she didn't have any money to support her kids. 

Lesley Logan 2:56   

Yeah, this is where, like, a lot of people were like, oh, why don't they just leave? It goes back to, like, the Diddy stuff, oh they could have just left. No. When they're controlling your career, when they're controllin