It's the first episode of New Media Lab's spinoff - Creator's Lab.  Each week, Rob answers questions from Kevin Long and offers advice for how to have a successful podcast.  Good for newbies and seasoned podcasters alike!  

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00:00:00
This is a really difficult question. Oh, that's a great question. That's a good question. That is a great question. It's a really good question. I love this question. And I think this really is going to help me kind of meditate and grow on. It wanna hear the answers checkout season two of new media lab with Robert Southgate new episodes every Tuesday available on Spotify. I tunes. Google hod Cass and wherever you subscribe to your favorite podcasts. Welcome to the new media lab, creators lamp island. It's a pretty good name for this. What we're gonna do is. I am going to over. The course of the next. I don't know ten weeks four weeks. We'll see how this last. I'm going to interview Kevin long from the Kevin law show. Hey, kevin. Hey, I actually have not interviewing Kevin what we're going to do with. It's a very horrible thing that we're going to do and I'm gonna put it on a regular free feed. And if it turns out that people are really into this and want to get a little bit more. We might do supplemental episodes that we put on the patriot only. But for now, let's give it away because let's face it people have questions and just to give a little background about you. And I'm sure I want you to jump in on this. Kevin. Kevin is part of our network. He's part of the Southgate media group network came to us what three years ago.

00:01:34
Yes. All right. And wanted to podcast, and boom is a podcast. And here's the deal. First of all, it's very niche the Kevin long show, and we'll get into what the niches in the second is a very specific group that were retargeting with it. And in the course of three years we've seen very tiny growth. Now, I believe that that growth is directly related to what Kevin is or isn't doing. And what I as a network had 'em doing or not doing. I think we can make this show grow. And I think the most important thing here is. Between us very often you and I right on Facebook. It'll be just a quick ask question. I'll give a quick answer boom or out. And then I thought you know, what I bet there are a lot of people that have show. That's three years old. That has you know, whatever let's say fifty listens and episode, and they really can't figure out why am I not up to five hundred or a thousand and they're going to be in the same boat. You are there are also people brand new to podcasting that can learn a hell of a lot before the three year Mark if we start talking about it now. Right. So Kevin I'm going to turn it over to you to get started. I want you to give background about the Tevin long show. What is it Harare? The Kevin long show is a weekly podcast that has to chose. I guess we'll call him shows on Monday. We talk about magic items and magic spells in dungeons and dragons and how you can use them.

00:03:17
In your game. And on Thursday. We have the main Kevin long show where we used to talk about a whole bunch of nerd stuff. But I decided that by original concept was dungeons and dragons, so we're going to go back to focusing on just dungeons and dragons and basically the love of the game. Okay. It's happening in the game as a whole things that like new creator contents for all the old editions one thing that I have coming down the pipeline is some dude in Utah compared what what's characters the Utah Jazz would be if they were in the indie game. So we're gonna look at that. And just dungeons and dragons in all the stuff that comes with it. So you're gonna very specifically talking about that as a property the other the other fitness out there. We have a few shows that I know you listen to there's a thing called actual play podcasts where they played a game. And then you hear your fly on the wall listening to it. And they walk you through it. That's not what you do. You're talking about dungeons and dragons as a fan, so almost like a fan podcast of Dan. And eventually with the original goal was to do an actual play podcast. We're just not there yet as as a show. Okay. Okay. So first of all, here's one thing. I'm going to say. What you just said when we started versus where we are. Now where we started throw it away. We're starting from right now.

00:04:58
Okay. The actual play thing. Let's let's make that part of your vision board. Yup. So right now we have magic Monday. And then we have the Kevin long show on Thursday. The the other thing the the actual play part of it is something that as a creator. We can say well, okay now, it's got legs. Now, we've got a lot of fans now we've got people that are really invested in this. And I want to do this actual play thing. I've got a cast for it. Great. We can either add that to this thread, we can give it its own thread, or that's the type of content that you say, this is my patriotic. Here's the Kevin long show patriot. This is what's going to be the fuel to help keep this going to pay for and what have you and you put your actual play show only on there. We're not there yet. Right. But that is definitely a goal that you want to put a pin. It. Okay. Now, everything you just said if I was starting to show. The very first thing. I would do what I'm going to kick you off with an assignment here real fast. Okay. Is you have already figured out your niche? Okay. What you need to do is figure out where that niche is. So tell me exactly what you're inches in niches deity phantom perfect. And you'd be surprised how many people ask a question like that. And they start talking about all sorts of what gigged of a nerd stuff and all this. Nope. Your niche is fans of DND, which there are a lot of it's a nice broad niche, but it is niche.

00:06:41
Okay. The name the Kevin long show doesn't tell us that. Okay. One thing that we need to do it will upfront. Here we go. We're going to get into assignments. When when you're launching a show. Let's see you're on Lipson. That's where I do all of our stuff from there are different fields that you have to fill in when you're launching the show one is your show description. Okay. So if I go to the Kevin long show right now, which I am going. Two. And I look at it shows settings. Here's what I have showed us corruption. Kevin is buddies discuss all things geeky that's old, and it's horrible. That's not telling us anything to what I need you to do this week is write me a paragraph. Do an elevator pitch about what the Kevin long show is really niche it down. We know that it's fandom for DND. I want it to say that Kevin talks about his phantom for dungeons and dragons and do it in the third person because reading it is not you or is not talking to you. So it's in the third person and give it a good like four or five sentences that really tell the audience. This is what my show is. Here's what we do. Okay. And then from a technical standpoint the last part of it is to give a good setup. Oh, and we can add this later. I'm more concerned about getting that first part.

00:08:14
Right. But we can add like a weekly podcast, though, podcast drops on Tuesdays, or whatever it is that the more information you can give to the audience the better off you are. But in the beginning getting that description right is key. When you when you go down, and you look at things like tags and keywords, I have things like table top nerd geek, dungeons and dragons, it's all in their guess what? Those don't do very much. I know people get very hung up on that in your feed for like Lipson. It turns out I tunes doesn't use those tags. Okay. So really where you want it to get those words is up in your show description. Okay. But it's got to be natural. I know that seems hard. But it's got to be natural. It's a show about dungeons and dragons, guess what we have keywords. Right. All right. Another thing that we did. Right. From the beginning is we call Kevin long show podcast as opposed to buck Kevin long show as soon as you put in front of it, you now are competing with every other show out there that has the word thaw. Yeah, I heard that last week on new media lab. Yeah. Yeah. Dave Jackson talked about it. So that is something we did very well from the beginning, we called it. The cabinet. We call it. Kevin long show. Even though it is when you say it, it's duck Kevin long show.

00:09:37
That's fine. But we gotta fix that show. Description the keywords, I'm not gonna worry about. Okay. From a back end thing. Now, this is something you don't deal with. But they're all these different things. I can do this is where I'm at fault for you where I can start filling in these fields on Lipson, for example. Is there a K